Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

But it would still be confidential right?

Yes.

Even if not, if I'm the P, I also have more pressing issues than to see what individuals opined.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes.

Even if not, if I'm the P, I also have more pressing issues than to see what individuals opined.

I have seen Ps who are really petty and biased..

Has anyone applied for this position recently? How long does it take for HR to shortlist for interview? Is the interview very hard? Is the turnover rate high for School Counsellors?

I am waiting for a response! Applied for the 9 august batch.

Does anyone know if we will get our LDS this coming Sep?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does anyone know if we will get our LDS this coming Sep?

We won't be getting LDS, because it is no longer called LSD.

SEP should be be paid out in September salary. $500 - 700 depending.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i am a current GEO 3, 5 years in service. Graduated straight from NIE BA/BSc programme and teaching non examinable subject (single subject) in a secondary school. Served NS, early 30s currently.

have been doing some projects in my school (low to high stake) but has been getting only a "C" for PB since in service.

Starting from this year, i have been appointed overall IC for my CCA (is this considered high stake position?) and have made it clear to my RO that I would like to take up some KP position starting 2021.

My SLs are not really young (late 40s to 50s) and my school culture is really good (happy to stay in my school).

However, I have been thinking about transferring school (or to HQ branch) to progress further in my career. But I have enjoyed teaching in my school and enjoyed good relationship with students and colleagues to the extent that we have regular meet up outside of school. I have heard of many political stories elsewhere and sometimes i have been told to "count my blessing" by many friends and seniors teaching in other schools.

I would like to progress up the rank (raising to SEO grade) in my career. I understand that being in my early 30s and still at GEO 3 means my progression is really slow. (maybe low CEP?)


Would like to seek the almighty forumers who can give me advice. Should i leave my current school (sacrifice the good office culture and relationship with students/colleague) for a better shot at SEO grade?

Being appointed overall IC in CCA is a good start, although it is also dependent on several factors:
> Is it a key and important CCA to the school? In terms of achievements, etc.
> How did you value add to the CCA? Or are they just finding someone to fill a post for day to day running of the CCA?

There shouldn't be many GEO3 in the school as it is still considered a relatively junior grade. There will be C+ and Bs in this grade and the best way to develop yourself is to know who are the fellow GEO3 officers and in what area they are doing better than you in.

A good school will still expect a minimal baseline for teaching and learning standards for KP to be above average (so make sure that is not your AFI), before looking at your portfolio and value-addedness.

One thing to note is some schools are more conservative in raising CEP (esp young officers), so seize the opportunity to value add to work assigned to you (and make sure it is visible).

You may have a slow start, but will the right attitude and drive, you will get there. SEO scale requires a minimal appoint of LH/SH though.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

We won't be getting LDS, because it is no longer called LSD.

SEP should be be paid out in September salary. $500 - 700 depending.

OP here. Thanks for the info.

[Mr E]

Hi!

Just curious about the payscales in MOE (as a teacher). The info is abit outdated, so wanted to check anyone who knows the more recent amounts..

1) What's the salary range like for GEO 3, 4, 5, SEO 1, 2, 3?
Is it aligned with:

MX9 (Directors) $11,110 to $17,370
MX10 (Senior Management) $7,000 to $11,470
MX11 (Middle Management) $4,740 to $8,305
MX12 (Management) $2,945 to $5,925
MX13 (Fresh Graduates) $3,000

(source: https://blog.moneysmart.sg/career/ci...ary-pros-cons/ )


2) And is there additional allowance for taking on SH/ HOD/ ST while being in the GEO grades?

3) Not sure if it's just a rumor, but possible for a HOD to earn about $13 to $14k?

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i am a current GEO 3, 5 years in service. Graduated straight from NIE BA/BSc programme and teaching non examinable subject (single subject) in a secondary school. Served NS, early 30s currently.

have been doing some projects in my school (low to high stake) but has been getting only a "C" for PB since in service.

Starting from this year, i have been appointed overall IC for my CCA (is this considered high stake position?) and have made it clear to my RO that I would like to take up some KP position starting 2021.

My SLs are not really young (late 40s to 50s) and my school culture is really good (happy to stay in my school).

However, I have been thinking about transferring school (or to HQ branch) to progress further in my career. But I have enjoyed teaching in my school and enjoyed good relationship with students and colleagues to the extent that we have regular meet up outside of school. I have heard of many political stories elsewhere and sometimes i have been told to "count my blessing" by many friends and seniors teaching in other schools.

I would like to progress up the rank (raising to SEO grade) in my career. I understand that being in my early 30s and still at GEO 3 means my progression is really slow. (maybe low CEP?)


Would like to seek the almighty forumers who can give me advice. Should i leave my current school (sacrifice the good office culture and relationship with students/colleague) for a better shot at SEO grade?

I hope to shed some light to your question. Something about myself. Not a scholar, no honors (normal degree), 16 years in service. I got my SEO1 when I was 35 and SEO2 5 years later.

Overall IC is not a high stake as schools dont consciously put high potential officers to lead CCAs unless the CCA is a niche area. CCA deployment is more like staff preference and putting officers where they used to previously.

Taking up a KP position is a conversation usually initiated by the RO. If your CEP is only P8, then your RO would not discuss this during your work review. The conversation would focus on T&L because a teacher with P8 CEP would be a teacher when he/she retires.

Seeking a HQ posting would require an officer to have a CEP of at least P7. So I suggest u check with your SLs first. (Of course, you cant ask them directly what your CEP is but you can seek their advice and from there, you would know what your CEP is).

If you feel that your school has a good culture, I would suggest you to stay. Schools with good colleagues and understanding SLs are hard to find. Going to a new environment would require you to build up relationships with new people and these people may have form cliques.