Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It has only been 3 years since your last promotion. It’s not slow. It’s normal for most people. The average promotion timeline for most ppl is 4-5 years. Most ppl will have a CEP of SEO1. If that is your CEP and you count the number of years you have in service, how fast do you think you will be promoted?

SEO 1 is only for Senior teachers where most would retire as happy ordinary teacher where the job grade maxes out at GEO 5.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My friend a guy within 5 years from geo3 to geo5 then complete his masters within the next 3 years ... next year going to hq liao ...
He wondering when he will be sh what u all think ?

I know of someone who was confirmed as HOD within 6 years from service and cleared his interview as HOD.

He is a scholar and old boy...

That's fast. With such fast promotion, won't be surprised if his cep is principal level.

[JustAnotherPrimaryTeacher]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I know of someone who was confirmed as HOD within 6 years from service and cleared his interview as HOD.

He is a scholar and old boy...

That's fast. With such fast promotion, won't be surprised if his cep is principal level.

Such cases I have heard of before indeed. Highly likely the someone is currently a HOD, at GEO 5. There are actually quite a number of younger potential teachers with higher CEP operating in this role.

Do note that HOD does not equate to immediate promotion to SEO. For this 6 year male, he probably had 1 year GEO 2-3, then 5 years spread out from GEO 3-4 (possibly 2 years here) and 4-5 (3 years). And currently he is in a HOD position while holding GEO 5.

Of course this person will be on a fast (more importantly, guaranteed) track towards SEO tier as not many would be considered for that. But I do know of HODs who feel that they are placed on that role as a GEO 5 and feel jaded after a few years as they have not gotten the SEO 1 promotion yet. It's a lot about managing expectations, whether you like middle management (even SH/LH are expected SEOs but with many GEO 5s holding those positions as well), and if you can handle the politics.

now there are more vacancies in pri sch. Going to HQ doesnt guarantee an MM position - it still depends on vacancies, and whether the individual clears his interview.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherPrimaryTeacher

Such cases I have heard of before indeed. Highly likely the someone is currently a HOD, at GEO 5. There are actually quite a number of younger potential teachers with higher CEP operating in this role.

Do note that HOD does not equate to immediate promotion to SEO. For this 6 year male, he probably had 1 year GEO 2-3, then 5 years spread out from GEO 3-4 (possibly 2 years here) and 4-5 (3 years). And currently he is in a HOD position while holding GEO 5.

Of course this person will be on a fast (more importantly, guaranteed) track towards SEO tier as not many would be considered for that. But I do know of HODs who feel that they are placed on that role as a GEO 5 and feel jaded after a few years as they have not gotten the SEO 1 promotion yet. It's a lot about managing expectations, whether you like middle management (even SH/LH are expected SEOs but with many GEO 5s holding those positions as well), and if you can handle the politics.

My progression is similar, just that it took me a year more, 7 years, to reach geo 5 and be appointed hod. I am not a scholar, in fact I didn't do well in uni. I consider myself a farmer, slogging day in day out. Seo? When it comes, it comes. VP? Hard to say, given the high demand and low supply. Progression and appointment have indeed slowed down over the years. Ps tend to follow the guideline when it comes to pushing people up the leadership track.

Politics? Everywhere. When you are in the exco, you will hear and see more ugly sides of things. But you will also be able to set things right. Depending on your character, there are some who are silent worker and chose not to be in the limelight. And there are others who are clearly more dominating and will not hesitate to take you on/down when disagreements happen. At the end of the day, I think one's RO is critical in his/her progression.

Anyone has taken OCA team award before? How much will each person get?

Hi everyone,

do you think there will be a salary revision anytime soon?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi everyone,

do you think there will be a salary revision anytime soon?

Highly unlikely. Economy is extremely bad. Doubt there would be salary revision even though election is coming. The current salary scheme is considered competitive.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone has taken OCA team award before? How much will each person get?

Very little. Around 200+

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Very little. Around 200+

Thanks a lot !