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please do your own job properly.

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Why is it so difficult to be recognised with better PB, promotions, positions as a non scholar, despite slogging for so long? Disillusioned. Yes, people will say suck it up, stop living in your bubble and do something about it, that's life, so deal with it. That's why we have news like the spf sgt.
of course its hard...how is it possible for salaries to keep rising forever and for ppl to get promoted forever????

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sorry am i noticing wrong or are there really a lot of teachers leaving these days? and more and more becoming fajt? the remaining teachers really seem to be extremely overloaded and exhausted

is there some major cost cutting exercise? cut recruitment and let people leave too?

im already seeing occasions where some teachers are taking 43 to 47 students since there are not enough teachers and the HODs just merge classes for those poor teachers. to them - problem solved??

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sorry am i noticing wrong or are there really a lot of teachers leaving these days? and more and more becoming fajt? the remaining teachers really seem to be extremely overloaded and exhausted

is there some major cost cutting exercise? cut recruitment and let people leave too?

im already seeing occasions where some teachers are taking 43 to 47 students since there are not enough teachers and the HODs just merge classes for those poor teachers. to them - problem solved??
similar to using cable ties to fixed mrt tracks
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sorry am i noticing wrong or are there really a lot of teachers leaving these days? and more and more becoming fajt? the remaining teachers really seem to be extremely overloaded and exhausted

is there some major cost cutting exercise? cut recruitment and let people leave too?

im already seeing occasions where some teachers are taking 43 to 47 students since there are not enough teachers and the HODs just merge classes for those poor teachers. to them - problem solved??
I heard the MOE cap on subject class size is 45. Not sure how one can regularly teach a class of 47 (exception might be cohort timed practice or script check).

I've had (and still have) classes of 40+, especially in Lower Sec with FSBB, but nothing above 45.
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I heard the MOE cap on subject class size is 45. Not sure how one can regularly teach a class of 47 (exception might be cohort timed practice or script check).

I've had (and still have) classes of 40+, especially in Lower Sec with FSBB, but nothing above 45.
As a parent I would be very worried if my kid is in such a large class. It's just impossible for one teacher to ensure that every kid is learning optimally. And besides the kids, the teacher's workload will be very worrying too. How to ensure classroom management all the time? How to manage the marking load?
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sorry am i noticing wrong or are there really a lot of teachers leaving these days? and more and more becoming fajt? the remaining teachers really seem to be extremely overloaded and exhausted

is there some major cost cutting exercise? cut recruitment and let people leave too?

im already seeing occasions where some teachers are taking 43 to 47 students since there are not enough teachers and the HODs just merge classes for those poor teachers. to them - problem solved??
Please refer to the MOF budget estimates documents for the past few years. MOE has been cutting headcount by around 300 every year since 2017, in which there was a major cut of 7000.

The cut is not like sacking people. But rather cutting recruitment efforts.
The number of new blood entering teaching is very few. Some CAJT contracts are not renewed. When existing perm staff leaves service, their headcount is not replaced as well.

The cuts are not very visible unless you look closely, but the effects can be felt very strongly. 1 or 2 fewer teacher in each school every year might not be much. But after 7 years of such headcount reduction, that would be like 7-14 teachers gone from the headcount. If a school is supposed to have 100 teachers, that would be a loss of 10% of the worker, with no reduction in workload.

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I heard the MOE cap on subject class size is 45. Not sure how one can regularly teach a class of 47 (exception might be cohort timed practice or script check).

I've had (and still have) classes of 40+, especially in Lower Sec with FSBB, but nothing above 45.
If there's a will, there's a way.

Park one of the class under a phantom teacher (i.e. staff on long term MC, maternity leave). Officially in the system, the class is temporarily under that perm staff, and the class is supposed to be covered by relief teachers.

But due to shortage of relief teachers who can actually teach the subject, for pragmatic reason, the class will be combined with another class. Or maybe even the whole level.

Quite a common practice.
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sorry am i noticing wrong or are there really a lot of teachers leaving these days? and more and more becoming fajt? the remaining teachers really seem to be extremely overloaded and exhausted

is there some major cost cutting exercise? cut recruitment and let people leave too?

im already seeing occasions where some teachers are taking 43 to 47 students since there are not enough teachers and the HODs just merge classes for those poor teachers. to them - problem solved??
the civil service is not a company. there is enough money. but there is not enough ppl in sg. civil service doesn’t want to leave private sector starved of talent
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the civil service is not a company. there is enough money. but there is not enough ppl in sg. civil service doesn’t want to leave private sector starved of talent
At the same time it is doing a disservice to the nation if the quality of education and other public services are compromised. Do you not think a class size of 45 or 47 is inherently compromising the quality of education, regardless of the skill of the teacher?
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