Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Have been in this forum for a while so I recalled something like this was discussed previously: post #3318. But of cos nobody knows if this is true unless u have worked in MOE HR i guess?
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HR will flag officers for promotion at intervals. The algorithm that determines this interval is not known to us, all we know is that it is somewhat related to CEP. Based on this, the school then decides whether to support/not support the promotion. HR will then execute the final decision.

That's why they say that "the rate at which you MAY be promoted depends on CEP, but whether you are actually promoted at each instance depends on your performance". You would have heard this line while in NIE before, or even from colleagues/mentors.

This is the most accurate representation of what happens in most cases of promotion.

Every year, HR flags a list of officers that are so-called "due" for promotion to the P. The P will then deliberate, in consultation with the VP(s), ROs and other mid management, whether to support the promotion or not. They will submit their recommendations back to HR. HR makes the final decision on promotion and informs the P of the outcome.

Of course, in some cases, the P is at liberty to enquire through their HR Partner about a specific officer's promotion (or lack thereof). However, as the P is also an EO, they are likely not going to be furnished with detailed information about why that officer is not flagged for promotion (beyond a generic holding line), or any detailed information about their expected career trajectory. HR guards EO-related information very tightly and EOs are not privy to much of this information, which is dispensed on a stringent need-to-know basis. So if the P wants to push for an officer's promotion, the most they can do is send a recommendation/enquiry into the big black box that is HR, and wait for the black box to spit out an outcome.

what on earth is HR doing? Imagine how the other teachers in the school must be feeling

Originally Posted by Unregistered

psc scholar. int hod now. entered as geo4 (promoted in 2021) SH in 2022, promoted to geo 5 in 2022, now seo1 (2023). Mad huh

Originally Posted by Unregistered

what on earth is HR doing? Imagine how the other teachers in the school must be feeling

It's Singapore. If you received a prestigious government scholarship, all you need to do is meet expectations. Of course if your performance is genuinely shite, you will still be sidelined. However, if you end up performing decently or better, you are guaranteed an express pass up.

That's the difference between scholars and farmers. Scholar perform well, confirm fly. Farmer perform well, may or may not fly depending on luck/right place right time.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just got promoted to GEO 4. My current geo 3 pay is 6k.
Will there be any merit increment upon geo 4 promotion?

quite a high pay for geo3...how long have you been at geo3?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

quite a high pay for geo3...how long have you been at geo3?

Prior to the 2022 salary revision, the GEO3 ceiling was at around 5.6k. It doesn't take long to hit the ceiling. For most people, if their cohort promotions occurred pre-covid, they would have entered GEO3 at around 4.5k-4.8k. From there, it takes about 3-4 merit increments to come very close to the ceiling, and another couple to hit it.

GEO3s got a 10% salary bump last year. Anyone close to/at the previous ceiling would have crossed 6k.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Prior to the 2022 salary revision, the GEO3 ceiling was at around 5.6k. It doesn't take long to hit the ceiling. For most people, if their cohort promotions occurred pre-covid, they would have entered GEO3 at around 4.5k-4.8k. From there, it takes about 3-4 merit increments to come very close to the ceiling, and another couple to hit it.

GEO3s got a 10% salary bump last year. Anyone close to/at the previous ceiling would have crossed 6k.

that means that those who were newly promoted to geo4 in the adjustment year damn suay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

that means that those who were newly promoted to geo4 in the adjustment year damn suay

Mathematically, it is almost certain that teachers from the same cohort who hit geo4 in 2022 will be overtaken in salary by their cohort mates who hit geo4 in 2023.

Unless the merit increments are calibrated to account for this. But we'll only find out next month

Any one whose school has not released promotees names yet? Or is my school the only one?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Mathematically, it is almost certain that teachers from the same cohort who hit geo4 in 2022 will be overtaken in salary by their cohort mates who hit geo4 in 2023.

Unless the merit increments are calibrated to account for this. But we'll only find out next month

This sounds really weird. Going by the figures, wouldn't it be better for the 2022 cohort to reject the promotion to maximise salary increment?

Not sure if anyone here has asked HR before?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This sounds really weird. Going by the figures, wouldn't it be better for the 2022 cohort to reject the promotion to maximise salary increment?

Not sure if anyone here has asked HR before?

Reject liao don't know when the promotion will be offered again. Later stuck at geo3 ceiling forever.
You want to reject?