Career as Teacher - Page 731 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Career as Teacher

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #7301 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 07:43 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Bluff

Consistent 80 hours per week for many teachers are unbelievable. 16 hours per weekday unless working over weekend. You are not allowed to stay too late in school unless exceptional case such as event etc.

16 x 40 marking loads dont make sense. Unless you are teaching 16 different courses. You mark based on per exam per class.

Dont try to exaggerate that teachers are one of the hardest teaching job. Many industry also have long working hours.

If manpower is an issue, it should be raised to management as it affects production. You dont expect a teacher to take more than he/she can handle.

Reply With Quote
  #7302 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 07:48 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
To be honest, I’ve been a teacher for more than 10 years and I can never understand how some teachers always claim that they worked for 80 hours? Other than the standard teaching hours, meetings and CCA, you can always manage your time wisely. Never ever do 1 to 1 consultation because you are not a tuition teacher. Make sure students ask their peers first before approaching you. Because if the whole class doesn’t understand, then can just re-teach in class. Next, you can always manage your marking load by managing how much work you want to assign. Advocate for peer/individual marking. Even for EL, get students to do drafts until the essay is of standard so that marking is easier.

Most of the time, I see teachers spending their breaks chit chatting with one another in the pantry and thus many of them complain that work only starts after curriculum hours. If you manage your time well, you can survive in teaching.
You've never had your subject teacher team dwindle from 7 to 5 to 4 to 3 and then to 2 within the span of 5 years, and you only get 2 FAJT slots (they work so hard they don't want to stay more than 2 terms), while the subject enrollment remains the same, and cries to HR through your P go unanswered. And they say this subject has excess national headcount. And your SO's school in a different zone genuinely has excess teachers; they teach only 3 classes and they get home a few hours before you every single day.

Oh, and.. you're the SH who became HOD.

-
I, too, want to teach in a well-staffed and well-endowed IP school/high SES school/brand name school. But not everyone gets that privilege. I like to think my time management is alright, and I am fairly competent (not the best, but good enough) at what I do. I feel a bit insulted when you insinuate that people working 80 hours brought it upon themselves.

Reply With Quote
  #7303 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 07:51 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Dont try to exaggerate that teachers are one of the hardest teaching job. Many industry also have long working hours.
Correct. But in some industries, their pay and benefits are commensurate with the expectation of long hours.

Here, MOE just tries to gaslight us with this work-life harmony ****. What happened to balance?!

Reply With Quote
  #7304 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 07:52 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Consistent 80 hours per week for many teachers are unbelievable. 16 hours per weekday unless working over weekend. You are not allowed to stay too late in school unless exceptional case such as event etc.
You forgot all the work teachers are expected to bring home to clear after dinner and over the weekend.

You may see teachers leaving school at 3pm, 4pm. But what is in their bags?
Reply With Quote
  #7305 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 07:56 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
You've never had your subject teacher team dwindle from 7 to 5 to 4 to 3 and then to 2 within the span of 5 years, and you only get 2 FAJT slots (they work so hard they don't want to stay more than 2 terms), while the subject enrollment remains the same, and cries to HR through your P go unanswered. And they say this subject has excess national headcount. And your SO's school in a different zone genuinely has excess teachers; they teach only 3 classes and they get home a few hours before you every single day.

Oh, and.. you're the SH who became HOD.

-
I, too, want to teach in a well-staffed and well-endowed IP school/high SES school/brand name school. But not everyone gets that privilege. I like to think my time management is alright, and I am fairly competent (not the best, but good enough) at what I do. I feel a bit insulted when you insinuate that people working 80 hours brought it upon themselves.
It is an INSULT that you stated High SES school. How you define low class versus high class school environment. You only focus on teaching subject instead of setting role model for students who may look up to you as a teacher?

Branded school usually due to producing high scorer students but that is normal. Competitive environment produce competitive results.
Reply With Quote
  #7306 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 08:41 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Not happy. Change school. Or quit. Or go flexi.
Reply With Quote

  #7307 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 08:43 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I wouldn't say 80 hour weeks are the norm if you are in a normal school. 60 hours yes... 80 hours usually only happens during test/exam weeks, or term 3 when all the **** hits the fan.

But yes I have heard that some schools are hit hard by resignations and are surviving on FAJTs. If MOE is not careful, there may be a cascading effect as more and more teachers will resign in these schools due to excessive workloads from lack of teachers.
Reply With Quote
  #7308 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 08:47 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Not happy. Change school. Or quit. Or go flexi.
Then the students how?

You think some teachers let themselves be drained like that because they are stupid? It's because they care. But just because they are driven by care, doesn't mean they should be taken advantage of like that (by the system).
Reply With Quote
  #7309 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 09:03 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
You've never had your subject teacher team dwindle from 7 to 5 to 4 to 3 and then to 2 within the span of 5 years, and you only get 2 FAJT slots (they work so hard they don't want to stay more than 2 terms), while the subject enrollment remains the same, and cries to HR through your P go unanswered. And they say this subject has excess national headcount. And your SO's school in a different zone genuinely has excess teachers; they teach only 3 classes and they get home a few hours before you every single day.

Oh, and.. you're the SH who became HOD.

-
I, too, want to teach in a well-staffed and well-endowed IP school/high SES school/brand name school. But not everyone gets that privilege. I like to think my time management is alright, and I am fairly competent (not the best, but good enough) at what I do. I feel a bit insulted when you insinuate that people working 80 hours brought it upon themselves.
If you are the HOD, then you got to reflect on why your teachers are leaving? What have you fought for them? HOD have some power.
Reply With Quote
  #7310 (permalink)  
Old 14-03-2023, 09:28 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Not happy. Change school. Or quit. Or go flexi.
The Flexi Scheme brings about another set of problems.

Guess who must manage the CCAs and do extra admin at no extra (overtime) pay?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
school teacher pay dazzlego Income and Jobs 10 30-07-2015 12:39 PM
Career advice for mid-career changer Rhin Income and Jobs 5 21-07-2010 11:21 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,866 Replies, 2,705,693 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
20,148 Replies, 9,293,843 Views
Working Culture in IRAS ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
72 Replies, 150,110 Views
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
4,129 Replies, 1,664,965 Views
NTU (non-faculty) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
141 Replies, 190,297 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,505 Replies, 4,173,424 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,110 Replies, 2,885,877 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,571 Replies, 1,927,306 Views
GIC (Government of Singapore... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
364 Replies, 647,174 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
11,625 Replies, 4,188,742 Views
Factual Local Bank Salaries - DBS... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,452 Replies, 1,088,461 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
402 Replies, 192,195 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,698 Replies, 3,340,289 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,276 Replies, 986,144 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
15,864 Replies, 11,545,302 Views
Ex-MOE Teachers ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
389 Replies, 419,007 Views
Cybersecurity/Info security career ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
491 Replies, 226,318 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
472 Replies, 270,976 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
4,847 Replies, 4,163,235 Views
how to earn money at this age? ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
44 Replies, 72,380 Views
td securities technology graduate... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
36 Replies, 8,468 Views
Talent Management vs Marketing,...
5 Replies, 3,775 Views
If you can't find a company here... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
130 Replies, 38,520 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
865 Replies, 408,971 Views
Constituency Manager (People... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
962 Replies, 750,499 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
9,363 Replies, 5,657,199 Views
Engineer Pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
653 Replies, 403,885 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,584 Replies, 870,359 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
640 Replies, 277,880 Views
Dyson ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
33 Replies, 27,128 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 08:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2