Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

wait you're saying they're trying such ways to persuade teachers to leave?

It's not the official reason given, of course. But is it not effective? As a GEO3/4 you are very likely to find the outside world much more attractive than your current working conditions. Unfortunately, it does not help to get rid of the dead weight that exists in a substantial portion of our GEO5 headcount, because..

they won't even want to go. Attach outside not as good, unlike enjoying life in school as a piece of dead weight, being able to leave immediately after the last lesson and giving zero hoots about everything else.

2022 connect plan statement is avail in workpal.

Cash should be credited by tmr

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Teacher here - personally, I feel this is an outmoded way of thinking. It might have been true in the past, but when the majority of households are dual-income today, I don't think it's wrong for schools to evolve and take on more of a character-building role.

On the other hand, this definitely leads to increased workload, without a corresponding increase in manpower. The solution (for now) seems to have been increasing salaries; but it seems clear that won't work as a long-term solution. Hope they're working on improving conditions over in the ministry… (beyond implementing chat bots)

Agree with this fully - it’s the inadvertent nature of things
In fact, it may be worthwhile to teach children about basic laws too, alongside civic lessons

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Reason is obvious. Ministry is still pushing to cut headcount due to the same old spiel: "excess teachers". But MOE does not practice layoffs/retrenchment, so one of the strategies is to get you to see the world outside and realise that the grass is (really) greener on the other side.

Yah. Seconded out to another ministry and never worked so little in my life compared to school/MOE HQ. Left service and tempo also same as secondment. Teacher life is really unsustainable but for that, I truly respect those who stay on.

Care to share which ministry?

I'm also a GEO 3 and I find it nowadays it takes ages to promote to the next level and doing so many things. My PB all along also quite good but just that promotion takes so long. Sigh.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yah. Seconded out to another ministry and never worked so little in my life compared to school/MOE HQ. Left service and tempo
also same as secondment. Teacher life is really unsustainable but for that, I truly respect those who stay on.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Care to share which ministry?

I'm also a GEO 3 and I find it nowadays it takes ages to promote to the next level and doing so many things. My PB all along also quite good but just that promotion takes so long. Sigh.

How many yrs alr?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How many yrs alr?

Is it better to stay at GEO 3 and get B or promote to GEO 4 and get C+ with heavier workload?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it better to stay at GEO 3 and get B or promote to GEO 4 and get C+ with heavier workload?

There is a big jump in the salary ceiling when you go from GEO 3 to 4. There is really no good reason to hentak kaki at GEO 3 (if you had the choice). You can't even take up higher appointment at 3.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it better to stay at GEO 3 and get B or promote to GEO 4 and get C+ with heavier workload?

Both also quite ok, the most suay is when you get promoted this year and miss out the larger adjustment for GEO3 -_-

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Care to share which ministry?

I'm also a GEO 3 and I find it nowadays it takes ages to promote to the next level and doing so many things. My PB all along also quite good but just that promotion takes so long. Sigh.

have you already hit the ceiling?