Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Exactly. It's not even 'a few years'. For example, in the context of the Education Officers scheme, we have GEO4 officers holding positions which are SEO2 estab (such as HOD). Most people in this thread will know how long it takes to go from GEO4 to SEO2. Not to mention that this person is more than likely to have direct reports drawing a higher salary. It's absolutely bananas that your pay is correlated more strongly with age/YOE than anything else, including the impact of your work.

What's ridiculous is that in private sector, remuneration is based on one's appointment, less so on pay grades.

A person working in the capacity of HOD will be paid a HOD salary, not an exec's salary. Yet we see people taking on appointments 2-3 pay grades higher on top of their normal work, while drawing a low pay.

And salary increments can increase by 10-20% jumping across companies. It is also possible to negotiate one's salary.

This is not possible in CS. Jumping across ministries or stat boards usually see a pay cut. And there is no room to negotiate for salaries. You either take whatever salary HR offers, and don't take the job.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And you think it is okay to pay someone at a non-management salary scale while they work a management position?

When you mean management as a teacher - could you elaborate on this?

Like HOD?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

And you think it is okay to pay someone at a non-management salary scale while they work a management position?

Most SH and HoD roles are redundant in MOE, mostly creating non-teaching work for the sake of their portfolio.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most SH and HoD roles are redundant in MOE, mostly creating non-teaching work for the sake of their portfolio.

Protest!! MOE to trim the fat and sack all these SH and HoD! Can pay the teachers, who are actually doing the work, better and more fairly then

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most SH and HoD roles are redundant in MOE, mostly creating non-teaching work for the sake of their portfolio.

The non-teaching work trickles down from the rot on top. Every Workplan Seminar chut new pattern. Every year chut new national PD direction. Everytime something happen chut new directive (teacher-counsellors, mental health buddy, bla bla). Are all these created by SH and HOD level? They're created by people who are so far removed from the reality on the ground.

Yes it's true that the way some SH and HOD interpret their KRAs leads to a big mess in schools, but I would say they hardly 'create' any of this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The non-teaching work trickles down from the rot on top. Every Workplan Seminar chut new pattern. Every year chut new national PD direction. Everytime something happen chut new directive (teacher-counsellors, mental health buddy, bla bla). Are all these created by SH and HOD level? They're created by people who are so far removed from the reality on the ground.

Yes it's true that the way some SH and HOD interpret their KRAs leads to a big mess in schools, but I would say they hardly 'create' any of this nonsense.

The focus on holistic education is really driving all the extra work created

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When you mean management as a teacher - could you elaborate on this?

Like HOD?

You are apparently one of those oblivious commenters who are not in the teaching fraternity, but making senseless comments and asking obvious questions on this forum. Like duh?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The focus on holistic education is really driving all the extra work created

By now you should realize that teach should not be confined to academics, but rather soft skills and character building as well. Coaching students to get distinctions in national exams does not imply that the child can survive the test of life ahead.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

By now you should realize that teach should not be confined to academics, but rather soft skills and character building as well. Coaching students to get distinctions in national exams does not imply that the child can survive the test of life ahead.

Ironically so many teachers have poor soft skills n character.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ironically so many teachers have poor soft skills n character.

Not denying this, but it's not as if much of the larger Singaporean society does, either.