Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, I hv just finished PGDE practicum this year in Mar 2022 and today just received a letter from MOE via P, informing that I am now GEO 3 and given quite a huge increment such that my new salary is now very close to GEO 3 ceiling. I thought all newly trained teachers are GEO 2? What does this mean in terms of the path ahead for me? For the record, I am a very late mid career switcher... Appreciate some advice and insights, thks!

congratulations. Its normal but in any case, once u reach the ceiling, it will be a few years before you see another increment, upon another promotion to geo 4.

nevertheless, during these volatile times, its good news, with the extra cash in hand.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

congratulations. Its normal but in any case, once u reach the ceiling, it will be a few years before you see another increment, upon another promotion to geo 4.

nevertheless, during these volatile times, its good news, with the extra cash in hand.

Yup normal. I reached geo 3 ceiling at 2nd year of teaching and has been at ceiling the last 3 years.

Now waiting for the increment. No news or update. Friends at MOE mx scale earning above 6k all received liao.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yup normal. I reached geo 3 ceiling at 2nd year of teaching and has been at ceiling the last 3 years.

Now waiting for the increment. No news or update. Friends at MOE mx scale earning above 6k all received liao.

Geo3 to geo4 promotions have slowed down drastically. I assume you did a mid-career switch, but there are lots of first-career teachers including local scholars with decent CEP also stuck at the geo3 ceiling after 5, 6 years in service or so.

As many pages of recent comments suggest, don't pin your hopes on a service-wide increment. It could happen, but it's not guaranteed or extremely likely. Salary revision policy discussions happen at regular intervals, but they don't always lead to an actual salary revision. With the bean counters tightening the govt's purse strings these days, it's hard to say how this round of talks will turn out.

Anyone knows what’s the demand for fajt for EMS in primary schools like now?

Does our RO know our CEP or only the school leaders? Any suggestion on how to get ROs to hint at our CEP during work review?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does our RO know our CEP or only the school leaders? Any suggestion on how to get ROs to hint at our CEP during work review?

They know but they cannot hint or tell you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does our RO know our CEP or only the school leaders? Any suggestion on how to get ROs to hint at our CEP during work review?

Unless the RO has incredibly loose lips for some reason, the only thing I can think of is to see what is said if you indicate you want to go for / apply out for a SH position - if insufficient CEP is a blocker, the RO might hint that it might not be a fruitful venture for now.

But that's not guaranteed; and there are various other possibilities. Lots of potential for false positives/negatives. Think safer to just assume no good way to know.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They know but they cannot hint or tell you.

It is possible to extract information indirectly during career conversations by asking/suggesting if it is a good idea to pursue, e.g. a SH/HOD position or a leadership position in a HQ branch. If your CEP is not high enough your RO will talk you out of it or suggest other things you should focus on for the time being.

Asking direct questions about CEP will not yield any answers, of course.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It is possible to extract information indirectly during career conversations by asking/suggesting if it is a good idea to pursue, e.g. a SH/HOD position or a leadership position in a HQ branch. If your CEP is not high enough your RO will talk you out of it or suggest other things you should focus on for the time being.

Asking direct questions about CEP will not yield any answers, of course.

I am more interested in the teaching track, not so much leadership. The last time I asked if there is any vacancy suitable for me, my RO suggested that I consider being a ST. So does that mean my CEP is not bad?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am more interested in the teaching track, not so much leadership. The last time I asked if there is any vacancy suitable for me, my RO suggested that I consider being a ST. So does that mean my CEP is not bad?

Possible, if he's making such suggestions. I guess you should be happy that he's helping to guide you on the track that you're keen on