Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can any KP colleagues break down the CEP subgrades for us? What are the different CEPs?

There are fancy codes, but you don't actually need to know them. Basically they map to the highest subgrade you are currently expected to be promoted to.

GEO5 (default)
SEO1 (have been recognised as having potential to go further; required for SH/LH/ST appointment - and I think HQ posting?)

Beyond that, it's pretty much just increasing step by step... SEO2, SEO3, Superscale H, etc...

(additional complexity - CEP also covers tracks, i.e. Teaching/Leadership/Specialist tracks, so it's possible to be recognised as a potential ST even if you're not so great at administration. But for the most part, the above should give you a rough idea of how CEP works.)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sometimes, it makes us wonder, how did some of these people become KPs.

If there are jia Liao bee SLs, it is not surprisingly to have incompetent KPs. Some just knew how to wayang their way up, claiming credits of others while throwing **** at people. At times, they simply have good brains and prestige status that aid their progression. Pitiful farmers who are capable generally lose the flame in the long run. Some do make it to become HODs, but that will be the furthest they can go.

The higher ups should really look into having the KPs on a tenure. Once the time is up, make way for the younger blood or do a rotation so that no one will be too comfortable doing what he/she is doing.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The higher ups should

Sorry.. they can't even hear the slightest whisper from where they are..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Which division/branch/unit should I consider to join HQ if I really want to stand out?

If you are really competent and know how to ride on the opportunities given to you, you can stand out anywhere. But if you are not, and you end up in a high-performing division like Schools Div, Planning, Special Educational Needs, you will just suffer because you are surrounded by many who are better

Principal in HQ is D or DD?

What are some contributing factors to raise CEP? Is it mainly taking on high stakes projects?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Which division/branch/unit should I consider to join HQ if I really want to stand out?

Typically Sch Div (since u are working closely with the supts) and CPDD (small number of officers who will rotate out to become SH/HODs)

[Kdhir]

Hi, any mid Career from other govt agency, with 10 years service prior to joining MOE as teacher? How's the progression like? Thank you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What are some contributing factors to raise CEP? Is it mainly taking on high stakes projects?

Not just taking on, but also being the overall I/C of such projects. You need to be able to show management ability in order to be considered for management positions. Also, while you are drowning in all this extra work, you must keep your T&L and student development work top-notch at all times. If your student-facing work suffers as a result, it will be considered that you cannot handle the extra responsibilities that constitute a management role.

Or you could be a scholar, or full salary PGS recipient or get PAT, lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Typically Sch Div (since u are working closely with the supts) and CPDD (small number of officers who will rotate out to become SH/HODs)

Agree with Schools Div, a lot of high flyers who are not necessarily prestige scholars strategically go to SD to become Special Assistants. It's a good place to network with Cluster Supts and school leaders, and generally make yourself known .. if you do good work and manage to stand out amongst the go-getters.

CPDD and other Professional Wing divisions.. not so much, tbh. Yes, it's true that pretty much any HQ posting will prepare you in some way for taking up higher appt in schools, but you will still somewhat lack a broad policy view if you are working mainly in curriculum subject teams.