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Old 25-09-2021, 08:52 AM
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Hi, just checking if there are any mid career switch to MOE teacher after like close to 10 years in industry? I am wondering what is the untrained teaching stint pay and the NIE pay like. Is there CPF and bonus as well? And also after NIE, which grade and roughly how much is the salary range? (I have a masters degree)

Also, I heard that untrained teaching stint could be a year instead of half a year like what was stated in the website. Is that common?

I really want to try teaching but Iím holding back a little because of the pay drop especially during the untrained teaching stint and also in NIE. And also a little afraid to go out of industry and if I cannot make it for teaching, I canít go back anymore.
Do you have the passion and are you willing to use your rest time (lunch time, weekends, after school hours) to help students? If yes, go for it.

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Old 25-09-2021, 01:14 PM
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Could anyone on ranking panel share the criteria used to determine whether to raise or lower one's CEP? Does getting a string of poor/great grades allow one's CEP to be raised/lowered? And, how many levels could CEP be raised by in one year?

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Very broadly - whether the officer has been observed to showcase traits of the target grade (e.g. SEO1, SEO2Ö).

I've not seen it increase by more than one level in a year; I've observed it being raised twice in a row for a high-performing officer, though.

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Thaks for all the comments! I always wanted to go into teaching after I gain some experience in industry! Reason, because I love to teach? At least that what I think. I wouldnít know for sure whether I will survive in a real school environment also.

I heard that mid career switch into teacher would be at least getting 5k? If you friend is getting 5k only 6 years after mid career switch, then maybe the length in industry is not long enough? Or maybe the example I heard was an individual case?
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Default NPL - further studies while accompanying spouse overseas

Iím sure youíre receive your PB. I did. But, itís pro-rated. Because, I only worked for 6 months and I got my PB pro-rated.

I am facing a big dilemma. I applied to do my masters in UK and to my surprise, I was offered a place.

The problem is I am currently on NPL for accompanying my spouse. I would like to study part/time because Iím really bored. Lol.

Anyone emailed MOE HR to ask (I did and awaiting their reply) or didnít ask and just did silently ?
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Very broadly - whether the officer has been observed to showcase traits of the target grade (e.g. SEO1, SEO2Ö).

I've not seen it increase by more than one level in a year; I've observed it being raised twice in a row for a high-performing officer, though.
Oh i see. Currently am a GEO5 taking on a HOD role this year. Was an SH last year.
Will the CEP change in this case?
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Don't really have sufficient data to tell (and ultimately, it's your SLs' decision). If you've been officially appointed as HOD, your CEP is at least at SEO2 level.

Whether it moves up beyond that would depend on your performance in the HOD role (and SLs' assessment). If you've been part of the ranking panel, you should have some understanding of how this works.

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Oh i see. Currently am a GEO5 taking on a HOD role this year. Was an SH last year.
Will the CEP change in this case?
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Don't really have sufficient data to tell (and ultimately, it's your SLs' decision). If you've been officially appointed as HOD, your CEP is at least at SEO2 level.

Whether it moves up beyond that would depend on your performance in the HOD role (and SLs' assessment). If you've been part of the ranking panel, you should have some understanding of how this works.
When is an officerís cep first assessed? Is it immediately after graduating from NIE? Or will they only consider the year after
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It's assessed every year. But there is a default starting grade.

In practice, it's unlikely to get adjusted until at least 1-2 years into the job?

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When is an officerís cep first assessed? Is it immediately after graduating from NIE? Or will they only consider the year after
Everyone starts with a default CEP grade (starting point may differ for scholars).

CEP is discussed every year, but adjustments are usually only made when some level of consistency is seen (either 2 - 3 years of above avg or below average performance). Don't expect your CEP to be adjusted from getting a B grade in 1 year.

Adjustment is also dependent on the number of years of service left.

There may be some level of subjectivity based on the school (SSC that is more conservative or more generous), but since the decision involves the Supt, you can also expect some sort of standardisation in practice across schools.
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