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Old 01-04-2020, 10:18 AM
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Anyway i got only 50 dollars increment and i hit max for geo 3. Last week i went to my P who was very nice and said she will drop a note to HR to check why was i still not promoted. She has not gotten back to me.

I plan to send an email to her to request for a convenient time to speak to her and ask her how i can work on myself for my career progression. Also, should i email MOE hr myself to ask? If so, anyone know what's their email? Not sure if it will be a good move since my P alrdy promised to drop a note. Very very demoralising.
Same boat as you, super demoralise but had spoken to ro too. Don't think much else we can do but to wait for next year.

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Same boat as you, super demoralise but had spoken to ro too. Don't think much else we can do but to wait for next year.
how many years have u been in geo 3?

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how many years have u been in geo 3?
Mine unique case cause I left service and rejoined but so far 4+2 years in geo 3.

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Mine unique case cause I left service and rejoined but so far 4+2 years in geo 3.
Promotion is slowed down if u leave and rejoin service. I believe ur years in service will be reset
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Promotion is slowed down if u leave and rejoin service. I believe ur years in service will be reset
So it's a marathon? See who can outlast?
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:48 AM
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Teachers are honestly the whiniest bunch of people around.

Letís be honest, very few Teachers joined because they have a passion for teaching. When i was in NTU and i met with people in NIE, here are the few types:

1) (5%) - People with real passion for teaching
2) (50%) - People who flopped in JC, and donít have the money to go to private Uni to get a sub-par degree or to go overseas to study. LL join NIE
3) (25%) - People with **** degrees (i.e. Lit, Comms, or some crap arts degree) who donít know what to do and suddenly declare that teaching is their passion. Youíve known them for 2-3 years and they never mentioned teaching. So you know it is a last ditch effort.
4) (20%) - People with good degrees (i.e. Engineering, Business etc), but donít want to join that field, no good companies will hire them at good pay or they tried those careers and it didnít work out. Basically looking for a steady paycheck.

(Think about which category you fall in. And no. If you are on this forum posting regularly, you are not in the first category)

Now all these clowns above look at their peers in the private sector and whine about not making more money because they are doing an honourable profession. As long as you have idiots who are willing to join these careers and accept **** pay, the profession is going to pay **** pay. Those from private sectors joining teaching ďaccepted a pay cutĒ because that is as high as they will earn in private sector. So they join teaching knowing there will be a steady increment for doing easy work.

Yes! EASY work. People leave companies like Keppel that used to pay 4-6 months bonus to join teaching because the work there was tough and the hours was long. Real long hours. Like 6 days week and daily OT. Leave home at 6am and come home at 8-9pm kind. Teachers whine about working from 6.30am to 6pm? that is what the rest of the population does too. What the rest donít get is a GUARANTEED period to take leave to go on vacation. If you have kids... WOW! Your vacation time coincides with their school holiday? If your spouse is a teacher, even better! Whole family suka suka go vacation together. I have cancelled multiple vacations cos my company last minute needed me to be around.

People leave other private sector jobs because they did tough jobs out in the real world and compete with people who are HUNGRY! I have colleagues who joined teaching. They are the laziest bunch of paper pushers around. None of them had a ďpassionĒ. Letís be real. In the schools, people whine about some people getting promoted fast. Well you know that these are real people who work real hard. Guess what? In the real world the majority of people are like this. This is what we compete with daily. Remember the saying: ďThose who can, DO. Those who canít, teach.Ē

I always thought the lazy people who i met in NTU from NIE will grow up and grow to become good Teachers. But honestly, that was a mistake. After a hard dayís work, i look at Instagram and all i see are Teachers whining about their Low pay and their heavy workload. If you have time to post on social media so much, maybe youíre not that busy.

So forgive me for thinking 99% of the Teachers i meet are the laziest, least motivated and lacking in vision kind of people on the planet.
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is anyone able to inform me the min scale for geo 3? Thanks in advance.
geo3 (2015): 3515.00 - 5616.00
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Teachers are honestly the whiniest bunch of people around.

Letís be honest, very few Teachers joined because they have a passion for teaching. When i was in NTU and i met with people in NIE, here are the few types:

1) (5%) - People with real passion for teaching
2) (50%) - People who flopped in JC, and donít have the money to go to private Uni to get a sub-par degree or to go overseas to study. LL join NIE
3) (25%) - People with **** degrees (i.e. Lit, Comms, or some crap arts degree) who donít know what to do and suddenly declare that teaching is their passion. Youíve known them for 2-3 years and they never mentioned teaching. So you know it is a last ditch effort.
4) (20%) - People with good degrees (i.e. Engineering, Business etc), but donít want to join that field, no good companies will hire them at good pay or they tried those careers and it didnít work out. Basically looking for a steady paycheck.

(Think about which category you fall in. And no. If you are on this forum posting regularly, you are not in the first category)

Now all these clowns above look at their peers in the private sector and whine about not making more money because they are doing an honourable profession. As long as you have idiots who are willing to join these careers and accept **** pay, the profession is going to pay **** pay. Those from private sectors joining teaching ďaccepted a pay cutĒ because that is as high as they will earn in private sector. So they join teaching knowing there will be a steady increment for doing easy work.

Yes! EASY work. People leave companies like Keppel that used to pay 4-6 months bonus to join teaching because the work there was tough and the hours was long. Real long hours. Like 6 days week and daily OT. Leave home at 6am and come home at 8-9pm kind. Teachers whine about working from 6.30am to 6pm? that is what the rest of the population does too. What the rest donít get is a GUARANTEED period to take leave to go on vacation. If you have kids... WOW! Your vacation time coincides with their school holiday? If your spouse is a teacher, even better! Whole family suka suka go vacation together. I have cancelled multiple vacations cos my company last minute needed me to be around.

People leave other private sector jobs because they did tough jobs out in the real world and compete with people who are HUNGRY! I have colleagues who joined teaching. They are the laziest bunch of paper pushers around. None of them had a ďpassionĒ. Letís be real. In the schools, people whine about some people getting promoted fast. Well you know that these are real people who work real hard. Guess what? In the real world the majority of people are like this. This is what we compete with daily. Remember the saying: ďThose who can, DO. Those who canít, teach.Ē

I always thought the lazy people who i met in NTU from NIE will grow up and grow to become good Teachers. But honestly, that was a mistake. After a hard dayís work, i look at Instagram and all i see are Teachers whining about their Low pay and their heavy workload. If you have time to post on social media so much, maybe youíre not that busy.

So forgive me for thinking 99% of the Teachers i meet are the laziest, least motivated and lacking in vision kind of people on the planet.
Very true. A lot of deadweights in school not pulling their weight. Esp those who have many years in service.
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Old 01-04-2020, 11:59 AM
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Teachers are honestly the whiniest bunch of people around.

Letís be honest, very few Teachers joined because they have a passion for teaching. When i was in NTU and i met with people in NIE, here are the few types:

1) (5%) - People with real passion for teaching
2) (50%) - People who flopped in JC, and donít have the money to go to private Uni to get a sub-par degree or to go overseas to study. LL join NIE
3) (25%) - People with **** degrees (i.e. Lit, Comms, or some crap arts degree) who donít know what to do and suddenly declare that teaching is their passion. Youíve known them for 2-3 years and they never mentioned teaching. So you know it is a last ditch effort.
4) (20%) - People with good degrees (i.e. Engineering, Business etc), but donít want to join that field, no good companies will hire them at good pay or they tried those careers and it didnít work out. Basically looking for a steady paycheck.

(Think about which category you fall in. And no. If you are on this forum posting regularly, you are not in the first category)

Now all these clowns above look at their peers in the private sector and whine about not making more money because they are doing an honourable profession. As long as you have idiots who are willing to join these careers and accept **** pay, the profession is going to pay **** pay. Those from private sectors joining teaching ďaccepted a pay cutĒ because that is as high as they will earn in private sector. So they join teaching knowing there will be a steady increment for doing easy work.

Yes! EASY work. People leave companies like Keppel that used to pay 4-6 months bonus to join teaching because the work there was tough and the hours was long. Real long hours. Like 6 days week and daily OT. Leave home at 6am and come home at 8-9pm kind. Teachers whine about working from 6.30am to 6pm? that is what the rest of the population does too. What the rest donít get is a GUARANTEED period to take leave to go on vacation. If you have kids... WOW! Your vacation time coincides with their school holiday? If your spouse is a teacher, even better! Whole family suka suka go vacation together. I have cancelled multiple vacations cos my company last minute needed me to be around.

People leave other private sector jobs because they did tough jobs out in the real world and compete with people who are HUNGRY! I have colleagues who joined teaching. They are the laziest bunch of paper pushers around. None of them had a ďpassionĒ. Letís be real. In the schools, people whine about some people getting promoted fast. Well you know that these are real people who work real hard. Guess what? In the real world the majority of people are like this. This is what we compete with daily. Remember the saying: ďThose who can, DO. Those who canít, teach.Ē

I always thought the lazy people who i met in NTU from NIE will grow up and grow to become good Teachers. But honestly, that was a mistake. After a hard dayís work, i look at Instagram and all i see are Teachers whining about their Low pay and their heavy workload. If you have time to post on social media so much, maybe youíre not that busy.

So forgive me for thinking 99% of the Teachers i meet are the laziest, least motivated and lacking in vision kind of people on the planet.
Actually, parents are most whiniest
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Teachers are honestly the whiniest bunch of people around.

Letís be honest, very few Teachers joined because they have a passion for teaching. When i was in NTU and i met with people in NIE, here are the few types:

1) (5%) - People with real passion for teaching
2) (50%) - People who flopped in JC, and donít have the money to go to private Uni to get a sub-par degree or to go overseas to study. LL join NIE
3) (25%) - People with **** degrees (i.e. Lit, Comms, or some crap arts degree) who donít know what to do and suddenly declare that teaching is their passion. Youíve known them for 2-3 years and they never mentioned teaching. So you know it is a last ditch effort.
4) (20%) - People with good degrees (i.e. Engineering, Business etc), but donít want to join that field, no good companies will hire them at good pay or they tried those careers and it didnít work out. Basically looking for a steady paycheck.

(Think about which category you fall in. And no. If you are on this forum posting regularly, you are not in the first category)

Now all these clowns above look at their peers in the private sector and whine about not making more money because they are doing an honourable profession. As long as you have idiots who are willing to join these careers and accept **** pay, the profession is going to pay **** pay. Those from private sectors joining teaching ďaccepted a pay cutĒ because that is as high as they will earn in private sector. So they join teaching knowing there will be a steady increment for doing easy work.

Yes! EASY work. People leave companies like Keppel that used to pay 4-6 months bonus to join teaching because the work there was tough and the hours was long. Real long hours. Like 6 days week and daily OT. Leave home at 6am and come home at 8-9pm kind. Teachers whine about working from 6.30am to 6pm? that is what the rest of the population does too. What the rest donít get is a GUARANTEED period to take leave to go on vacation. If you have kids... WOW! Your vacation time coincides with their school holiday? If your spouse is a teacher, even better! Whole family suka suka go vacation together. I have cancelled multiple vacations cos my company last minute needed me to be around.

People leave other private sector jobs because they did tough jobs out in the real world and compete with people who are HUNGRY! I have colleagues who joined teaching. They are the laziest bunch of paper pushers around. None of them had a ďpassionĒ. Letís be real. In the schools, people whine about some people getting promoted fast. Well you know that these are real people who work real hard. Guess what? In the real world the majority of people are like this. This is what we compete with daily. Remember the saying: ďThose who can, DO. Those who canít, teach.Ē

I always thought the lazy people who i met in NTU from NIE will grow up and grow to become good Teachers. But honestly, that was a mistake. After a hard dayís work, i look at Instagram and all i see are Teachers whining about their Low pay and their heavy workload. If you have time to post on social media so much, maybe youíre not that busy.

So forgive me for thinking 99% of the Teachers i meet are the laziest, least motivated and lacking in vision kind of people on the planet.
Haha yes, in the private sector, competition is much more intense, office politics is much more intense, and clients actually have real power over you (by withdrawing their business and going to your competitor) if you piss them off - whether it is your fault or not.

Teachers are very sheltered. We are also paid pretty well for the intensity of the work we do. I am thankful for the bonus and increment in these tough times. I am glad I don't have to deal with ********* adults when working in the private sector, it's the reason I left. It's like a semi-retirement already!
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