Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Has anyone successfully appealed against non-promotion?

If so, did you get promoted with immediate effect, or in Oct?

Haven't tried, but I suppose it will be difficult to have a successful appeal.
I guess SLs will have their way to justify and wriggle their way out.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For SHs that are SE01, do you feel that you're disadvantaged in a way if your fighting against HODs who are at the same rank as you? How to stand out when they clearly do more and impactful?

The best case scenario is a C+ in my school. One person got a B in the year she covered for the HOD. It’s hard especially when you are ranked against others in the cluster, there are VPs who are SEO1 too.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No such thing as ‘confirm’ la. Buy Mao Shan wang Durian also cannot say confirm good quality. Reasons for non promotion is a mystery to many people, even SLs won know because it is determined by HR. Your ‘C’ in your eyes, may not be a ‘C’ in actual fact. Can’t reveal much here, but if you know, you know. And that could be one of the reasons you are not promoted.

It used to be guaranteed as long as you don't screw up and get C- or below. That's why it was called a "cohort promotion". The NSmen would get it immediately (the nearest Oct or Apr) after confirmation, while the non-NSmen and the ladies would get it in the subsequent cycle.

Nowadays it seems like the promotion is no longer a fixed interval after confirmation, but some other mechanisms (probably performance and competency related) are at play.

Just got the good news for this year.

Geo4 to 5 = 4 years
Geo5 to SEO1 = 3.years

Means I will hit SEO2 in 2027? I hope lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

[2022] GEO2 (Untrained): 2300-5000 (graduates start here)
[2022] GEO2 (Trained): 2950-5200
[2022] GEO3: 3900-6250
[2022] GEO4: 4800-7700
[2022] GEO5: 5150-8250
[2022] GEO5A: 5650-9050 (max salary grade for standard teacher)
[2022] SEO1: 6400-10250 (min. LH/SH/ST)
[2022] SEO2: 7850-11650 (min. HOD/LT)
[2022] SEO3: 9800-13700 (min. HOD/MT)

Is this still true?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is this still true?

Yes, because they didn’t adjust the salary so far.

Originally Posted by Sad BT

I started my BT-ship last year April. I heard that the guys who served NS will confirm get promoted this year April. But me and the other BT who are NS men are not in the promotion list.
Both of us got C for the Performance grade which I heard is quite a norm for 1st year BT. Anyone knows the reason for us not to be promoted?

A confused BT...

Cohort promotion GEO2 to 3 is also no longer solely based on time norms, i.e. not automatic after a certain time. Other factors also determine promotion readiness, just like for the higher subgrades.

It sucks but welcome to MOE. The horror stories of being stuck at GEO3 or GEO4 for 8 years are real. Not incredibly common (the silent majority get their promotions faster, so you only see the complainers on this thread), but very real.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Cohort promotion GEO2 to 3 is also no longer solely based on time norms, i.e. not automatic after a certain time. Other factors also determine promotion readiness, just like for the higher subgrades.

It sucks but welcome to MOE. The horror stories of being stuck at GEO3 or GEO4 for 8 years are real. Not incredibly common (the silent majority get their promotions faster, so you only see the complainers on this thread), but very real.

Please lah… some pple take almost 17 years to get GEO5… and still slogging their hearts out…

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is this still true?

5A isnt the max for a standard teacher. 5 is.

Only a small percentage of HOTs sill get the bump up to 5A.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Please lah… some pple take almost 17 years to get GEO5… and still slogging their hearts out…

Some people don’t even get there. They cap at GEO4. The most jialat I see before is cap at GEO3 .