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Old 22-01-2025, 09:13 PM
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Hi all, seeking the opinion of experienced teachers.

I’m a holder of the Teaching Award. It helped to pay for my Bachelors. After that, I did my masters (self-funded) and then did my PGDE. I’ve been teaching for 3 years already and just graduated BT. Currently GEO3. In my current school, I was given for ranking:

Year 1: GEO2 - B
Year 2: GEO3 - B
Year 3: GEO3 - B (or higher, as I have been involved in national level sharings)

I would like to know the trajectory for me - is it likely that I may be called up for FHQ/FLP?
Or are teaching award holders actually farmers akin to Encik? I understand there’s a tiered scholarship system, but would my CEP be affected if I’m a good performer even though I am not scholar?
Are you already speculating on the grade you will see on your letter coming March 2025???

You are still very new to the service, so unless you are a PSC scholar, your trajectory probably hasn't even materialised yet. It is however a good time to start sharing your aspirations with your RO so that the school can plan how to develop you in the direction that you aspire towards.

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Old 22-01-2025, 11:29 PM
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Hi all, seeking the opinion of experienced teachers.

I’m a holder of the Teaching Award. It helped to pay for my Bachelors. After that, I did my masters (self-funded) and then did my PGDE. I’ve been teaching for 3 years already and just graduated BT. Currently GEO3. In my current school, I was given for ranking:

Year 1: GEO2 - B
Year 2: GEO3 - B
Year 3: GEO3 - B (or higher, as I have been involved in national level sharings)

I would like to know the trajectory for me - is it likely that I may be called up for FHQ/FLP?
Or are teaching award holders actually farmers akin to Encik? I understand there’s a tiered scholarship system, but would my CEP be affected if I’m a good performer even though I am not scholar?

It's too early to say. The lower salary grades are when its easy to get good performance grades, so its hard to read too much into it.

There are plenty of non-scholars who get promoted quite quickly through consistent good performance though, so its possible.



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Old 23-01-2025, 06:45 AM
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Do PE teachers get the same salary as other subject teachers. They do not have to do any form of marking, creating exam questions, create consultation slots for students to ask questions, their job seems to be very idle and relaxed
I wouldn’t use the words idle and relaxed as they do have certain niche programmes to run (eg. Camps, mass run). However no one can deny that they are relatively more free, and the contrast in workload gets quite big towards the second semester.

But all that comes at a cost of having less opportunities and platforms to stand out from the rest in their paygrade, which in turn affects promotion and salary. Other than being a natural fit in the Discipline Comm and sports CCAs, many struggle to stand out in most committees and KP positions.

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Old 23-01-2025, 07:30 AM
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My man here thinks the whole school staff goes on vacation on the last day of school for the kids, and then just shows up on 2 Jan the following year with everything ready to go. No planning and preparatory work needed.
The number of teachers here bluffing abut doing doing planning and prep work in Dec is absolutely astounding. Please lah be honest. How mnay times do you hear about colleagues who come in at the start of the year talking about how they did absolutely nothing in Dec, rush to prep in early Jan and then start whining about how there's no time for anything?

So many teachers here talk about how they work over the hols, how many times do you even switch on your laptop.

Absolutely infuriating as a KP to have my dept people expect empathy for workload when they don't even use their time productively
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The number of teachers here bluffing abut doing doing planning and prep work in Dec is absolutely astounding. Please lah be honest. How mnay times do you hear about colleagues who come in at the start of the year talking about how they did absolutely nothing in Dec, rush to prep in early Jan and then start whining about how there's no time for anything?

So many teachers here talk about how they work over the hols, how many times do you even switch on your laptop.

Absolutely infuriating as a KP to have my dept people expect empathy for workload when they don't even use their time productively
Sounds like a management skill issue. My dept has no problem getting most of their stuff together even before protected time starts. They fly off, but 80-90% of the stuff is ready for the HOD/SH to vet. The rest is done after protected time (not January, but the last week of Dec). Maybe you should work on some dept culture building and motivation for your teachers.
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The number of teachers here bluffing abut doing doing planning and prep work in Dec is absolutely astounding. Please lah be honest. How mnay times do you hear about colleagues who come in at the start of the year talking about how they did absolutely nothing in Dec, rush to prep in early Jan and then start whining about how there's no time for anything?

So many teachers here talk about how they work over the hols, how many times do you even switch on your laptop.

Absolutely infuriating as a KP to have my dept people expect empathy for workload when they don't even use their time productively
Sounds more like you need to develop your leadership and management skills more. You sound like a leader who blames the team for mediocre performance instead of stepping up and taking responsibility. I hope for the good of the students you do take time to reflect and get better.
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The number of teachers here bluffing abut doing doing planning and prep work in Dec is absolutely astounding. Please lah be honest. How mnay times do you hear about colleagues who come in at the start of the year talking about how they did absolutely nothing in Dec, rush to prep in early Jan and then start whining about how there's no time for anything?

So many teachers here talk about how they work over the hols, how many times do you even switch on your laptop.

Absolutely infuriating as a KP to have my dept people expect empathy for workload when they don't even use their time productively
Sorry, zero sympathy for you. If '"infuriating" is all you've got, you've failed as a leader.

Speaking as a junior KP who is far from perfect, but learning a lot about what sort of leader not to become.
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I wouldn’t use the words idle and relaxed as they do have certain niche programmes to run (eg. Camps, mass run). However no one can deny that they are relatively more free, and the contrast in workload gets quite big towards the second semester.

But all that comes at a cost of having less opportunities and platforms to stand out from the rest in their paygrade, which in turn affects promotion and salary. Other than being a natural fit in the Discipline Comm and sports CCAs, many struggle to stand out in most committees and KP positions.
Thats why some of them are very flamboyant and tend to keep telling people “wah i very busy sia” and walk around looking hurried and busy.


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The number of teachers here bluffing abut doing doing planning and prep work in Dec is absolutely astounding. Please lah be honest. How mnay times do you hear about colleagues who come in at the start of the year talking about how they did absolutely nothing in Dec, rush to prep in early Jan and then start whining about how there's no time for anything?

So many teachers here talk about how they work over the hols, how many times do you even switch on your laptop.

Absolutely infuriating as a KP to have my dept people expect empathy for workload when they don't even use their time productively
People like you sounds like why many are quitting
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I have endured through horrible KPs and ROs in my school (same place for 8 years)
Last 3 years i had a better RO/HOD , workload was more manageable, I could do what I wanted in my subject was teacher in charge of my cca (but a lot of admin work). Also got B for performance grade for last 3 years... the year before the B was a C- under the toxic RO..

And I did almost the same thing, doing more than my grade already..

Sadly, they launch the HOD rotation thingy and my HOD gotta leave by 2027, so if i get another toxic HOD I will just leave it all behind.
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