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Old 22-11-2024, 02:41 AM
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If you’re thinking about moving up in teaching—like into leadership, designing curriculums, or training other teachers—a master’s could definitely help with that. If you’re more into research or making changes in education policy, a PhD might be the way to go, but it’s a bigger time commitment.

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Hi, I'm a fellow civil servant on the MX scheme and am interested to know how the pay compares to teaching, out of curiosity. I'll start the ball rolling.

Assuming a 16 month package all-in (12 months pay, 4 months combined mid and end-year bonus, performance bonus):

- Entry level - Manager/Senior Manager - 1 to 10 years experience: 45k to 80k
- Middle management - Assistant Director - 8 to 15 years experience: 80k to 120k
- Middle management - Senior Assistant Director/Deputy Director - 12 to 20 years experience: 140k to 200k
- Senior management - Director - 15 to 25 years experience: 220k to 260k
Your side pays better.
Rank and file teachers should be making 100-120k max after bonuses, and those with less years of experience getting maybe around $90k

A vice principal is equivalent to Deputy Director. Vast majority do not make it to VP. Think about it, in a school of 100-120 staff, only 1 principal and maybe 2-3 VP.

In a normal office setting, a DD manages far fewer people. Have heard of DDs managing 5-10 officers in some units. The chances of a person attaining DD appointment is far higher than in schools.

Think wisely before you apply

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Old 23-11-2024, 02:42 PM
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She is just a GEO4, not KP or in charge of any event. She needs to go back today and tomorrow. Just wondering why they can't do it next week and had to go back to do today and tomorrow. Can't even work from home.
Secondary school teachers already have it good - WFH during O levels before school holiday starts. Primary school teachers were still managing students in class. So officially it is not PVT yet. For people managing school cockpit, there are deadlines communicated. Your wife should know. If have to go back means work not done. After deadline want to do also cannot do.

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A lot of these comments seem quite depressing... On a side note, for my fellow parents and educators out there, I chanced upon a tuition centre offering very [URL="://educaretutoring.sg"]affordable[/ classes at only $30 for a 2 hour lesson. Might be worth checking out...
u r trying to sneak in with hidden marketing is it?
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Your side pays better.
Rank and file teachers should be making 100-120k max after bonuses, and those with less years of experience getting maybe around $90k

A vice principal is equivalent to Deputy Director. Vast majority do not make it to VP. Think about it, in a school of 100-120 staff, only 1 principal and maybe 2-3 VP.

In a normal office setting, a DD manages far fewer people. Have heard of DDs managing 5-10 officers in some units. The chances of a person attaining DD appointment is far higher than in schools.

Think wisely before you apply
Thanks for the insight!
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Principal is minimum 5 figures
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Old 26-11-2024, 10:26 PM
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If you’re thinking about moving up in teaching—like into leadership, designing curriculums, or training other teachers—a master’s could definitely help with that. If you’re more into research or making changes in education policy, a PhD might be the way to go, but it’s a bigger time commitment.
If i'm not wrong, a Master's degree is not a requirement for advancement on any of the 3 tracks. A PhD seems to be the requirement to be promoted to Master Specialist on the SS track (SEO3/Superscale appointment).

What a Master's degree will give you is an approx $200 bump to your pay (this was several years back, not sure about now). So if you intend to do a Master's it makes sense to do it early in your career and reap the increased pay over more years than wait till 10+ years in service where the monetary returns may not justify the time, effort and money spent getting the degree (unless you intend to do a PhD thereafter).


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If you’re thinking about moving up in teaching—like into leadership, designing curriculums, or training other teachers—a master’s could definitely help with that. If you’re more into research or making changes in education policy, a PhD might be the way to go, but it’s a bigger time commitment.
If it were me, I’d also look into picking up some extra skills that could open more doors later on. Stuff like project management or even logistics can be handy. I saw something about freight broker training at https://www.vocationaltraininghq.com...oker-training/, and while it’s not related to teaching, it made me think about how learning to manage systems and processes can be helpful in all kinds of jobs, even if you want to step outside education someday.
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If you’re thinking about moving up in teaching—like into leadership, designing curriculums, or training other teachers—a master’s could definitely help with that.
Sorry, but this is bad advice. The previous commenter has got it right. A Master's degree has no impact on your progression and, if relevant, only grants a $200 pay bump.

The three workstreams you've identified also belong to very different roles. Leadership - within schools or in HQ? Designing curriculum is the purview of CPDD and can be done by junior officers or specialists alike. Training other teachers - most PD is run by NIE or AST, one of which comprises PhD holders and the other of which does not require anything beyond a bachelor's degree.

People who are not in the Education Service, please stop adding your two cents. Or taking the opportunity to advertise your tuition services.
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Hi i got posted to Regent sec for my practicum. Does anyone have info on this school? Heard of the low manpower and high turnover rate. :`< any way i can request to change schools?
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