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10-10-2014, 11:21 AM
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Can share why you will never work for Mindef? Ultimately it is just another government agency, and a big one at that.
There are many advantages and benefits of working in a big and established organisation.
1. Good benefits like:
Annual leave
Medical Leave
Childcare, family care leave
exam leave
Medical and dental coverage
transport claims for field work, overtime work
2. Upgrading opportunities
Sponsored diplomas, degrees, graduate studies
Professional courses
Soft skill courses
In-house programmes
3. Job rotation to other departments
4. Overseas trips
depending on department, some have great opportunities for overseas project work
5. Sports day once a month, Welfare activities
6. Decent pay and can retire at 67
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Even if i have to die, i will never work for mindef. LOL!!!
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10-10-2014, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Maybe he thinks that working for Mindef is equivalent to signing on.
There are lot of people working as civilian officers as Mindef who would never sign on.
The only good reason I can think of for not working for Mindef is that the skills are not transferable to the public sector and it's a dead end job, but this is balanced out by the stable pay and iron rice bowl
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Can share why you will never work for Mindef? Ultimately it is just another government agency, and a big one at that.
There are many advantages and benefits of working in a big and established organisation.
1. Good benefits like:
Annual leave
Medical Leave
Childcare, family care leave
exam leave
Medical and dental coverage
transport claims for field work, overtime work
2. Upgrading opportunities
Sponsored diplomas, degrees, graduate studies
Professional courses
Soft skill courses
In-house programmes
3. Job rotation to other departments
4. Overseas trips
depending on department, some have great opportunities for overseas project work
5. Sports day once a month, Welfare activities
6. Decent pay and can retire at 67
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12-10-2014, 11:45 AM
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Quick question for more experienced contributors here...
When you apply for a DXO position you have to indicate the positions you're interested in on the application form...I'm just wondering how much they take into account the choices you indicated or do they just offer you based on the results of your psychometric test?
I've been to a couple of interviews where I only found out during the interview proper that the position I'm being interviewed for is NOT the one I initially applied for. Don't know why companies waste everyone's time doing things like this...
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13-10-2014, 11:02 AM
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Did MINDEF actually call up any of your current/previous work supervisors and/or referees?
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13-10-2014, 11:46 AM
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Anybody knows how much does a Media Analyst get at mindef with and without honours?
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13-10-2014, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Anybody knows how much does a Media Analyst get at mindef with and without honours?
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did you get an interview for this?
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14-10-2014, 02:10 PM
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Whats the pay range? anyone can advise kindly?
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14-10-2014, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Whats the pay range? anyone can advise kindly?
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A fresh grad with 2nd upper from local uni can be paid extremely close to $4k...
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15-10-2014, 01:08 PM
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hi, i did my first interview about 2.5 weeks ago.
after the interview, the HR person informed me that the interview outcomes would be announced "within or around" (can't remember her exact wording) 2 weeks time.
since it has already been more than 2 weeks, do you think it would be wise for me to contact HR either via phone/email to check up on the status of my application?
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15-10-2014, 03:34 PM
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Managed to scroll past some of the responses, hope I can help out here. Some background about me, Currently a DXO, worked for slightly over a year, degree awarded by Unism (Note: not SIM, MINDEF do not recognize SIM Global), no honors just a pass degree and previously in MOE. I came to SAF as a mid- career switch but pay offered was 3k plus and after confirmation and recent pay adjustment, pay now approx. $4k.
I pulled some strings and referred my bro to the SAF Film Unit, but he didn't managed to go pass the interview session. The 'strings' I pulled is referring my bro through an employee referral system. My bro managed to pass psychometric test but didn't go beyond that. I referred other friends and they didn't managed to pass psychometric tests so no offer. 'Pulling strings' does no work.
If you go for interview/unit preview and not get a reply after 2 weeks, means you are not in. If you are in, you will know within a week.
Pros
Healthy Work-life balance
Competitive remuneration schemes
Can take leave very easily, work less demanding, SAF takes very good care of its employees.
Bosses are generally very nice and friendly as long as you are respectful.
Very flexible hours and you are home usually before 7pm (unless you work in CMPB or MINDEF)
Little or no politics, work is relaxed and less demanding, people are understanding, keep asking you to have more babies... etc fun environment. Very pro- family!
If you have a family, want quality time, hopes for more personal time and feels obliged to be there for your kids, come to MINDEF.
Cons
Extremely Bureaucratic and many red tapes. Processes are slow and changes are not fast enough to be reactive and helpful.
Personally, I have met some senior commanders who are arrogant, narrow minded and self- righteous. They feel that they are very important and they want others to make them feel important. I don't like it. They can be very full of themselves and boastful (about salaries). One commander told me he earned a quarter million last year and he feels underpaid. IMO, defence is like insurance, better to have it when you don't need it then to not have it when you need it. I know its importance but I cannot help but feel that the organization likes to justify its salary and benefits in the premise of the life- changing work it does.
Arrowing work. Supervisors will always arrow work out and find fault with the lowest living forms. I despise that. And the white- horse, scholar worshipping cultures.
Non transferable skill-sets, hard to define contributions and achievements. The things some DXOs do are very specialized and cannot be transferred elsewhere.
In the end, I left after 17months in the organization, it was a fruitful experience and I enjoyed the company of great colleagues and fun environment. No learning curves but you definitely become more vocal after that due to the need to write staff papers and minutes (not all). I personally had the experience of speaking with a senior command once and he refused to acknowledge me, not even look at me. Not offended, just want to point out that it is not for everyone. I enjoy a more challenging and corporate experience so I traded stability and comfort in the job for a more challenging job with greater learning experience.
Hope this helps.
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