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villan1 28-09-2011 11:09 AM

Internal Auditor
 
Just wondering whats the market rate for a fresh grad working in an MNC as an internal auditor?

Unregistered 28-09-2011 02:00 PM

IA
 
Expect amount a little over an entry level big 4 auditor, so i reckon around 2.8k to 3.5k.

villan1 28-09-2011 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 16686)
Expect amount a little over an entry level big 4 auditor, so i reckon around 2.8k to 3.5k.

apparently i was offered only 2.5k. I was told by HR that the company offers fresh grad 2.5k as a start.

Am i severely short-changed?

i have done my medical but yet to sign the contract (will be down tmr though). Any advice? thanks

madgoat 28-09-2011 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by villan1 (Post 16696)
apparently i was offered only 2.5k. I was told by HR that the company offers fresh grad 2.5k as a start.

Am i severely short-changed?

i have done my medical but yet to sign the contract (will be down tmr though). Any advice? thanks

Note that an internal auditor is very different from an external auditor despite sharing similar designation.

An internal auditor is essentially a process executive whose main job is to ensure that the company's policies and processes across all departments are adhered to. This is very different from an external auditor whose main focus is on checking the books.

2.5k is not high, but decent. Most companies will not differentiate fresh grad executives across different departments. You certainly should not use a big4 auditor as a benchmark, completely different roles.

villan1 28-09-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by madgoat (Post 16702)
Note that an internal auditor is very different from an external auditor despite sharing similar designation.

An internal auditor is essentially a process executive whose main job is to ensure that the company's policies and processes across all departments are adhered to. This is very different from an external auditor whose main focus is on checking the books.

2.5k is not high, but decent. Most companies will not differentiate fresh grad executives across different departments. You certainly should not use a big4 auditor as a benchmark, completely different roles.

yeah they dont differentiate fresh grad executives across different departments.

be it Finance dept, hr dept, marketing dept, they pay the same rate for freshies:(

madgoat 28-09-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by villan1 (Post 16704)
yeah they dont differentiate fresh grad executives across different departments.

be it Finance dept, hr dept, marketing dept, they pay the same rate for freshies:(

Common practice.

One thing you should take into account is the reporting structure of your role. Many MNCs are moving into 2 tier matrix reporting for internal audit and if your company is headquartered in Europe / America, this could mean many late night or early morning telecon calls.

villan1 28-09-2011 07:55 PM

will a fresh grad be able to negotiate salary on the day of signing the contract?

villan1 29-09-2011 10:06 AM

anyone can help? thanks

madgoat 29-09-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by villan1 (Post 16720)
anyone can help? thanks

Bad idea.

1) Frankly a fresh internal auditor is just another junior job, a company is unlikely to make exception if their policy for fresh grad is already 2500. In all honesty, internal audit isn't exactly a powerful or important department.

2)I assume you have verbally informed them that you will be coming down to sign contract. Doing a last minute stunt on the spot will piss off many people big time. They’ll have to engage various stakeholders and relook at internal equity, get approval etc. Even in the unlikely event you pull off, it sets you up for failure because you have offended quite a few people including your boss before you even start work.

Unless you are some hot potato (which I doubt seeing that you are considering joining a normal executive level job), I recommend you not try something like that. Either accept or reject the role upfront.

villan1 29-09-2011 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by madgoat (Post 16723)
Bad idea.

1) Frankly a fresh internal auditor is just another junior job, a company is unlikely to make exception if their policy for fresh grad is already 2500. In all honesty, internal audit isn't exactly a powerful or important department.

2)I assume you have verbally informed them that you will be coming down to sign contract. Doing a last minute stunt on the spot will piss off many people big time. They’ll have to engage various stakeholders and relook at internal equity, get approval etc. Even in the unlikely event you pull off, it sets you up for failure because you have offended quite a few people including your boss before you even start work.

Unless you are some hot potato (which I doubt seeing that you are considering joining a normal executive level job), I recommend you not try something like that. Either accept or reject the role upfront.


Thanks for the advice. :)

Unregistered 29-09-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by madgoat (Post 16723)
Unless you are some hot potato (which I doubt seeing that you are considering joining a normal executive level job), I recommend you not try something like that. Either accept or reject the role upfront.

Scared this scared that, you sound like a typical local loser who dun dare to face up to the boss.

No wonder all the FT steal our jobs, China and India man so aggressive and never scared and just ga ga demand what they want.

Just whack for $3200 first, if company don’t give then accept the $2500 also can.

Unregistered 29-09-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 16729)
Scared this scared that, you sound like a typical local loser who dun dare to face up to the boss.

No wonder all the FT steal our jobs, China and India man so aggressive and never scared and just ga ga demand what they want.

Just whack for $3200 first, if company don’t give then accept the $2500 also can.

Most likely the HR will ask you to #($&*@ get lost. It shows you are not serious and just want to screw around for more money.

davidhaylor 26-12-2013 09:24 PM

Yes, I am too agree that it may upto 2.5k.Auditors have great job opportunity and this is going to boost in the next few years; In fact, as per U.S. department of labor, employment of accountants and auditors is predictable to produce by 22 percent between 2008 and 2018, which is much faster than the standard for all occupation.


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