Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Anyone know how is PwC risk assurance? Does it offer a good career progression? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone can join the big 4. They take in people from sim or rmit with below average scores. Best I’ve seen is they took in a history grad for audit. The only place with any sort of standard now is ironically AGO lol

Is it even possible to fail an interview for big 4 audit? I see some of my local uni friends with accountancy degrees join mid tier firms instead of big 4, is it they buay kan or just can't cut it at interviews?

Originally Posted by archieluxury

Is it even possible to fail an interview for big 4 audit? I see some of my local uni friends with accountancy degrees join mid tier firms instead of big 4, is it they buay kan or just can't cut it at interviews?

they failed the resume screening stage

Originally Posted by Unregistered

they failed the resume screening stage

From the previous replies it seems like even 3rd class honors, private uni, history degree can get in.

How bad could their resumes have been? They draw hentai on the cover page and submit ah?

They got no min requirement but if you fk up the interview that's on you. When they ask you why you want join audit you stupidly say join for experience and leave why the fk they want take you? The turn over rate already so jialat. Or if you go say things like why the pay so low.

Originally Posted by archieluxury

From the previous replies it seems like even 3rd class honors, private uni, history degree can get in.

How bad could their resumes have been? They draw hentai on the cover page and submit ah?

Rising number of strawberry graduates asking for work life balance during interviews

As someone that graduated from one of the local uni (Nus, Ntu & Smu), i have to agree that the big 4s have no standard anymore. In the first 2 years of audit, everyone is able to do the mindless work. However, once you give the private degree associates real work, they make a mess of it and drag everyone else down.
My advice to local U undergrads, don't fall for the "prestige" of the big 4. Think about it, if people from SIM or non-accounting students can get in, is it even prestigious anymore? Also, the exit opps isn't magical once you work in the big 4. Literally 1000s of auditors are trying to leave, nothing will help you stand out. The only reason i managed to snag a good job in industry is the fact that i had a first class from a local uni. P.s. don't listen to seniors that tell you your grades don't matter after your first job, it does.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As someone that graduated from one of the local uni (Nus, Ntu & Smu), i have to agree that the big 4s have no standard anymore. In the first 2 years of audit, everyone is able to do the mindless work. However, once you give the private degree associates real work, they make a mess of it and drag everyone else down.
My advice to local U undergrads, don't fall for the "prestige" of the big 4. Think about it, if people from SIM or non-accounting students can get in, is it even prestigious anymore? Also, the exit opps isn't magical once you work in the big 4. Literally 1000s of auditors are trying to leave, nothing will help you stand out. The only reason i managed to snag a good job in industry is the fact that i had a first class from a local uni. P.s. don't listen to seniors that tell you your grades don't matter after your first job, it does.

WTF bro i have the same thoughts but kept it to myself. But not just private uni grads lah tbh. Got some ntu or nus ppl also beh kan one lah. But if you not good will get pass on for promotion. The only diff is really local u ppl seem to get job easily. You tell the AM he not getting to manager, they cfm leave in 3-6 months . The private u ppl lanlan suck thumb

Originally Posted by Unregistered

WTF bro i have the same thoughts but kept it to myself. But not just private uni grads lah tbh. Got some ntu or nus ppl also beh kan one lah. But if you not good will get pass on for promotion. The only diff is really local u ppl seem to get job easily. You tell the AM he not getting to manager, they cfm leave in 3-6 months . The private u ppl lanlan suck thumb

I think what all the previous post are relevant whether big4 or other organisations

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think what all the previous post are relevant whether big4 or other organisations

This is only in the big 4. Look at other MNCs, for banks that they in fresh grad, you need to have good grades + softskills + technicals. For other big companies they take in only a handful as well. In big 4, because of the high turn over they have to take in the bottom barrel graduates. Look the the skill gap, you have person A (Raffles straight As + Nus good honours) then you have B ( lousy jc B/Cs and from Sim). If you give the same work ofc A does it better what. Then A set the standard make everyone else look beh kan. In other MNCs if you beh kan got no one to compare it to.

Only sad part is less and less capable people joining audit. Now is all sim/suss/sit they ask some of dumbest questions you can imagine. Btw my experience is from yellow firm. Heard from my ex schoolmates pwc and kpmg are still able to attract local u grads