why don't you try asking the HR instead?

Associate Director - D2
 

Thanks for guidance, I will definitely reach out to HR but need some advice from people already in the big4 and having some knowledge on it. It will give us more clarity and make it more informative discussion with the HR

I wld like to clarify that I have not heard of any 3k x 12 offers. In a certain big 4 dept (as previously mentioned a few times in the last page) the first yr salary is 3.5k x 12. No aws, no bonus.

All other depts are 2.7k x 12 + bonus. Someone here mentioned 3k so maybe big 4 has adjusted their starting salary for 2015. For 2014 fresh grad pay was still 2.7k.

I also agree with some other comments here regarding big 4 in general. 90% of people who enter big 4 treat it as a stepping stone to get into mncs after 3-4 years of experience. only those truly crazy stay on past yr 5 to become managers and continue earning the lousy pay for the crazy hours. big 4 like to say they give good increments but even if 6k after 6 years is good, dont forget most people work 8 hour days while as a manager you will be working closer to 10, not to mention bringing work home or working over the wkends which is the norm during peak periods. once you factor in all the extra work you do, your hourly rate is probably no better than a jc temp staff after a-levels.

i used to be from big 4, left and never looked back.

The problem with big4 is unless u make it to partner level and get the generous profit sharing scheme, the bonuses are so pathetic that its just not worth all the crazy hours.

We are not even talking about comparing to big boys in rich industries like banking or oil/gas .... The typical big4 Manager / Director gets like 2-3 mths on average and maybe 5 mths for top performer without even AWS. It's just not worth working 70-90hr work week for this sort of package.

How difficult is it to get into big 4 management consulting?

What is the remuneration like?

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Already shown above. Big 4 is way easier than the real consulting companies because they aren't real consultants.

What do you mean they aren't real consultants? As in they are fake consultants? I would refrain from making such sweeping statements.

Both Deloitte Consulting and PwC Consulting are ranked in the top 6 consulting practices in terms of prestige according to Vault rankings (above the likes of L.E.K, Accenture and Oliver Wyman, mind). MBB dominates the market as strategy houses but by no means are the big 4 not "real consultants".

In terms of difficulty getting in, big 4 consulting practices have a more difficult interview process than the other functions (tax, audit). A couple of them require candidates to go through assessment centres. I wouldn't compare the interview process with the ones in the U.S. but I don't believe they are by any means 'easy' in any case.

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u sound like downie bro

[QUOTE=Unregistered;63592]may I know why is it a shithole now? having trouble?

While I agree that calling big 4 fake consultants is sweeping and going overboard, neither is hyping or over-seliing them any better.

Sure, go out into the job market & tell ppl a Deloitte or PWC consultant is more "prestigious" than Oliver Wyman and see how many ppl out there are gonna be impressed.

All these rankings will just show whatever they want depending on what methdology they use. Heck even the likes of SIA/Keppel/Singtel gets ranked top employer of choice in some surveys, but go out into the job market and see who really if get offered by investment banks, o&g majors, top IT firms etc will give up and join SIA/Keppel/Singtel

The fact that these Big 4 even get questioned and ppl need to jump in to "defend" already shows they are far from being prestigious. You make it sound as if PWC & Deloitte is just ranked slightly lower than MBB, that is an understatment of the year.

A typical MBB freshie is usually a dean's list type top student from a world renowned business school with an illustrious internship experience or gets involved in other activities like NGOs/foundations/activism etc. A typical Big 4 managment consultant freshie is more likely a local university 2nd upper student. The difference cannot be starker.