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Old 19-03-2022, 06:52 PM
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Manager shoot email kaopeh whole team is **** and cc partner in lol. He trying to cover backside sibo

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Manager shoot email kaopeh whole team is **** and cc partner in lol. He trying to cover backside sibo
Think about it : The manager has to take responsibility over the entire team efforts and output, to be answerable to the partner. It’s damn scary. You often don’t get to choose your team members and have to work with people you met for the first time.

Imagine a project work where you do your best but your whole team cannot make it and you end up getting like a C grade.

I really hate this kind of situation of being held accountable for events or people outside my control.

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Think about it : The manager has to take responsibility over the entire team efforts and output, to be answerable to the partner. It’s damn scary. You often don’t get to choose your team members and have to work with people you met for the first time.

Imagine a project work where you do your best but your whole team cannot make it and you end up getting like a C grade.

I really hate this kind of situation of being held accountable for events or people outside my control.
Meaning team screw up manager no at fault also?

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Old 19-03-2022, 10:15 PM
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Meaning team screw up manager no at fault also?
Team screw up at most just 拍拍屁股 tender and leave

Manager is further into their career, more rooted and harder to leave, more likely to have commitment like family and kids.

If manager tell the team to do, gave good and perfect instructions, but team never do properly, end up still manager responsible zzz

What to do? At most just loop in the big boss to cover backside a bit, make it clear he has done what he can do.

End of the day, the idea of being held accountable for things beyond your control is uncomfortable to me la.
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Think about it : The manager has to take responsibility over the entire team efforts and output, to be answerable to the partner. It’s damn scary. You often don’t get to choose your team members and have to work with people you met for the first time.

Imagine a project work where you do your best but your whole team cannot make it and you end up getting like a C grade.

I really hate this kind of situation of being held accountable for events or people outside my control.
That’s why in school always pick your project mates wisely. Unless really is assigned and you have no choice.
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Team screw up at most just 拍拍屁股 tender and leave

Manager is further into their career, more rooted and harder to leave, more likely to have commitment like family and kids.

If manager tell the team to do, gave good and perfect instructions, but team never do properly, end up still manager responsible zzz

What to do? At most just loop in the big boss to cover backside a bit, make it clear he has done what he can do.

End of the day, the idea of being held accountable for things beyond your control is uncomfortable to me la.
But if manager overnighted and also never spotted mistake and end up blaming team for this mistake, is it correct? Not saying team is can 拍拍屁股 but isn’t this team effort? If team screw up, manager should also be held accountable instead of throwing the team under the bus to protect himself
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Old 19-03-2022, 10:31 PM
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But if manager overnighted and also never spotted mistake and end up blaming team for this mistake, is it correct? Not saying team is can 拍拍屁股 but isn’t this team effort? If team screw up, manager should also be held accountable instead of throwing the team under the bus to protect himself
err if you read my post properly, I already say managers are held accountable/responsible for it.

It's a team effort lor, I feel like things should change such that team should bear a bigger share of the responsibility.
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Manager shoot email kaopeh whole team is **** and cc partner in lol. He trying to cover backside sibo
wow so unprofessional.
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This is not possible. The very nature of audit is process driven and backwards looking. The very reason for doing audits in the first place also owes itself to regulations.

If there's any service line that is ripe for more automation and replacement by AI, audit would be one of the prime candidates. The only reason why it is not done, is because its cheaper to hire malaysians and outsource to philippines, than invest in automation tech.
This is true but Now accountants using old tech like optical character recognition. Anw even if they implement, more ppl will get slash.
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Think about it : The manager has to take responsibility over the entire team efforts and output, to be answerable to the partner. It’s damn scary. You often don’t get to choose your team members and have to work with people you met for the first time.

Imagine a project work where you do your best but your whole team cannot make it and you end up getting like a C grade.

I really hate this kind of situation of being held accountable for events or people outside my control.
But they are the 1 who hire them lol. What sh1t excuses. Pay money get monkey.
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