Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For purpose of online discussion, we usually exclude such qualitative factors as they are subjective / judgmental and your mileage may vary.

It's better to stick to a qualitative discussion. (i.e gross salaries)

*quantitative

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So what is your opinion on this? Do you think they deserve to earn so much? Are their responsibilities and workload 100 to 1000 times more than executive?

I think audit partners deserve to earn 1000x more than us lowly executives. We should be grateful for the learning opportunities provided by the firm and OT everyday to deliver exceptional client service. Many people dying to get into big 4 to work under our renowned partners also no chance. We also have a chance to become like them and earn big bucks in 15 years time.

You are very ungrateful & disrespectful leh. You working in which big 4? You are a disgrace to your firm.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought pwc has best culture
People nicer, hours shorter and budget bigger

That is what i heard.

I know some people from EY joined pwc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought pwc has best culture
People nicer, hours shorter and budget bigger

People are probably quite similar everywhere, and kpmg peeps are fine. Pwc is said to have a more structured workflow, which associates and senior associates have clearly defined audit field work to do and more properly staffed teams. Not sure if that is still true.

Other firms may be the so called steep learning curve which you are thrown into the sea. When you are forced to work overly hard as associates, you get de-sensitised to curveballs that pop up and are better equipped to manage hiccups. It is a bad experience, but it builds up your mental strength and EQ, as well as technical knowledge in a shorter time. So it isn't too bad when you look back at it a few years later.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought pwc has best culture
People nicer, hours shorter and budget bigger

used to be true before covid. after mass turnover, it is not really accurate anymore.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. I think audit partners deserve to earn 1000x more than us lowly executives.
2. We should be grateful for the learning opportunities provided by the firm and OT everyday to deliver exceptional client service.
3. Many people dying to get into big 4 to work under our renowned partners also no chance.
4. We also have a chance to become like them and earn big bucks in 15 years time.

5. You are very ungrateful & disrespectful leh.
6. You working in which big 4? You are a disgrace to your firm.

1. Okay you are entitled to your own opinion, no comment.
2. Agree on the learning opportunity (this is one of the better points of the job), disagree on the OT (we should not encourage an OT culture), agree that learning client service is a useful soft skill but in my observation not everyone (especially the juniors) can appreciate the client facing aspect of the job.
3. Not sure if "many", but yes there are people who want to get in also cannot.
4. Very small chance man... but I suppose like TOTO ticket, there is still a value to this 0.000x% chance of striking it big. 15 years might be on the fast side? 20 years safer?

5. This is just an online anonymous, leave him be.
6. Maybe he not even from Big 4 to begin with.. come in disturb only.

Lastly, I'm also just playing along cause I'm bored and I feel like there are some parts truths, some parts sarcasm and a dash of trolling in your post but it seems worth replying to lol. In fact if you are trolling, I praise you're pretty good and I would want to learn from you seeing how you mix facts, opinion, and troll together.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People are probably quite similar everywhere, and kpmg peeps are fine. Pwc is said to have a more structured workflow, which associates and senior associates have clearly defined audit field work to do and more properly staffed teams. Not sure if that is still true.

Other firms may be the so called steep learning curve which you are thrown into the sea. When you are forced to work overly hard as associates, you get de-sensitised to curveballs that pop up and are better equipped to manage hiccups. It is a bad experience, but it builds up your mental strength and EQ, as well as technical knowledge in a shorter time. So it isn't too bad when you look back at it a few years later.

Yes i agree on this. People at pwc are generally less competent. Their senior knowledge is equivalent to an associate in other big 4s. Thats why during exit job opportunities, I always win them. Easy kill for me.

In other big 4s, you either float or sink. And you might miss your promotion if you sink too deep, and it isn't even your fault.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

used to be true before covid. after mass turnover, it is not really accurate anymore.

YES AGREED. PWC is severely shorthanded now. Covid restrictions on msians coming in, who are our bread and butter. Please come over and relieve the workload of us singaporeans pls. I wanna abuse u

Originally Posted by Unregistered

People are probably quite similar everywhere, and kpmg peeps are fine. Pwc is said to have a more structured workflow, which associates and senior associates have clearly defined audit field work to do and more properly staffed teams. Not sure if that is still true.

Other firms may be the so called steep learning curve which you are thrown into the sea. When you are forced to work overly hard as associates, you get de-sensitised to curveballs that pop up and are better equipped to manage hiccups. It is a bad experience, but it builds up your mental strength and EQ, as well as technical knowledge in a shorter time. So it isn't too bad when you look back at it a few years later.

Yes i agreed. PWC auditors are generally less competent. Thats why less employers want to take them in and prefer the other big 4s

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tough choice between pwc and kpmg audit. Which one to choose?

Why only consider pwc and kpmg? Why not deloitte or ey?