Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you need to ask this, you’re in the wrong thread.

Bro here use LEICA M11 Monochrom huan

He colourblind 😎

Seriously nobody want to goes Tuas to do audit

why the banks all want audit report?

Can't they do the due diligence on their OWN clients themselves?

What's the point of keep relying of auditors for due diligence? So weird one.

Can these old geezers just stop yappin about how accounting fell from grace or some ****. Times changed old man

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hiring managers these days screen out auditors and accounting grads specifically. It's normally done at the HR stage even. Ex-auditors themselves are refusing to hire accounting grads for banking and fintech roles when you can get perfectly trained grads with the right background off the bat. Case in point, myself. Not that I would publicly admit to pulling up the ladder but it's the reality, don't forget the phrase sinkie pwn sinkie didn't come from thin air.

How’s the hiring recently for seniors ?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The fall from grace is dramatic. When the intake of students for accounting today is so much inferior vs recent years the end results are undesirable. Rising living costs here and abroad have propelled prospective students to pursue other disciplines namely computing and data science given its much higher financial returns. This creates a situation whereby high ability students feel short-change given the fact that Big 4 are unable to move with times and understand the aspirations of gen Z.

What aspirations of Gen Z?

Work from home, 4 days work week, leave office 6pm?

While having 5k starting salary?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The 10 years is a huge change to the accounting industry. At your time, the accounting grads are being respected a lot. Nowadays we can a large decline in quality of audit associates compared to even 3 years ago. My batch of associates 3-4 years ago became seniors and we are a bit shocked at the quality of fresh grads nowadays. Audit is the like your time where it is made up of a lot of local uni grads. Nowadays associates are from many pte unis and foreigners. The seniors are mainly foreigners because the smarter local grads seniors left. I have nothing against foreigners if they are capable. It can really work both ways now, like a smarter associate with a less capable senior or a capable senior with less capable associates because they just keep hiring mid joiners. Even some new mid joiners managers are not as capable and you have no choice but to take less efficient orders from them. Due to your position, may I ask if the banks still hire people from audit? From what I have gathered, banks are hiring less from audit now and prefer to hire fresh grads and train them. I mean the quality of auditors declined and why would they hire from this pool anyway? In your time audit is a good stepping stone but I cant say it works the same now. If you were to experience this, you might understand why a lot of bashing on accting grads

Agree with this. Last time, there were a lot of job postings preferring Big 4 experience. Now, MNC experience is preferred lol. You don’t need an accounting degree to do audit. just apply to KP. KP has been actively hiring non-accounting graduates

Can give me back 10 years of my life?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

what is Blue/Yellow/Orange/Black represents which employer?

Blue - KPMG
Yellow - PwC
Orange - EY
Black - Deloitte

Wait I think I’m wrong. EY can be Black OR Yellow.

Deloitte is Black OR Green.


The question is badly designed…