Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wait... what is wrong with saying something different now compared to the past? After going through a process for a certain time, isn't it normal that people mindset change? When the "you" said wanted to go into audit in the first place and is expected to stay in the industry for 20+ years? Circumstances change, environment change, culture change and it is natural that people change. We are all being honest here, many people realize audit is not for them when the higher management treat them as slaves. True audit experience helps in securing next job to a certain extent and people might have passion in other areas and make a switch in career. How is this contradicting? Audit becomes so toxic because of unreasonable management over the years.

There’s nothing wrong with saying something different now compared to the past, but changing your stance without recognising the value of the audit experience you gained is short-sighted.

Sure, circumstances and environments change, but that doesn't mean you abandon or disregard the foundation you built and audit experience you gained. It's still what will help you get ahead.

It's not about staying in audit for 20+ years. It’s about using the skills and experience you have gained to pivot intelligently and not just quit audit out of frustration.

Saying audit isn't for you now doesn’t change the fact that it’s the stepping stone for your next job opportunity.

Yes, management can be toxic, but that doesn't diminish the importance of pushing through for the long-term benefits.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Who is the “you” ?

Personally, I'm thankful for the experience… surviving the harsh working hours, the CA sponsorship and the work exposure. endured the worst pain of working non stop during high peak and nothing can surpass that. Yes, I'm still using Big 4 as a stepping stone.

Wa sb satki. Ur linkedin got put ex kpmg ex ey ex pwc ex deloitte?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought it had always been like this. Audit is not to “advise” but to provide reasonable assurance of the fs

Why has the perception of auditors become so much worse in 2024? lol

Kinda useless in sg. See sgx...good chip is always supported by someone. See sia, singtel..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There’s nothing wrong with saying something different now compared to the past, but changing your stance without recognising the value of the audit experience you gained is short-sighted.

Sure, circumstances and environments change, but that doesn't mean you abandon or disregard the foundation you built and audit experience you gained. It's still what will help you get ahead.

It's not about staying in audit for 20+ years. It’s about using the skills and experience you have gained to pivot intelligently and not just quit audit out of frustration.

Saying audit isn't for you now doesn’t change the fact that it’s the stepping stone for your next job opportunity.

Yes, management can be toxic, but that doesn't diminish the importance of pushing through for the long-term benefits.

If its valuable. Client will be happy to pay more fee. Ever wonder ehy some firm pay millions for audit? Is ur partner and the client management or snr executive friends? Usually they all connected... heck.. even the partners are bod somewhere... if u involved in ethics and risk management u will see hw BS audit can be. Sadly there are too many blinded auditors now, saving the profession without knowing whats going on.. i think the public and the state of accting industry can tell you why. Stop working 12 to 16hrs a day. Go out and take a look.

There is this new china audit firm called FOZL

i see their office i get the shudder

Its like whole office is located in another country

Originally Posted by EDMWer

There is this new china audit firm called FOZL

i see their office i get the shudder

Its like whole office is located in another country

Where is their office sia? How come they are diamond sponsor?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Where is their office sia? How come they are diamond sponsor?

Marketing. All from MY and china the partners.

Any updated pay scale?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Any updated pay scale?

Waiting for this info as well.

For a few years after leaving B4, I was able to get this information from my juniors. But now even my juniors have left.. no longer have a reliable source.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Waiting for this info as well.

For a few years after leaving B4, I was able to get this information from my juniors. But now even my juniors have left.. no longer have a reliable source.

leave so long alr why u still curious lol