Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by EDMWer

Under my proposal, that means for purpose of fellowship

That means will assume the individual to be at partner level by 5th year of working

I mean public accountant which fulfill acra definition

Originally Posted by Unregistered

U see his standard confirm is acca start from mid tier one HAHAHAHAHAHA

Our old gen of public accountant no concept of materiality one

Last time we used to do over 20(client who are solid in accounting) to 60 adjusting journal entries per client


Do so many AJE until client CFO see the ETB until blur

Originally Posted by EDMWer

Under my proposal, that means for purpose of fellowship

That means will assume the individual to be at partner level by 5th year of working

Ya so save 3 years only?

Cause now you need 3 years to be member, and 8 years to be senior manager.

So 3+10=13, 8+5=13

Then you proposing to reduce it down to 10 years. So save 3 years?

based on u all observations/exp at your firm, how is the turnover rate recently? and is your firm lacking associates or senior? or just nice only?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

your mum isnt suitable to give birth to you. your stupid generation needs to stop shoving this kind of crappy gaslighting ****. it is NOT normal to OT for no good reason and it is NOT normal to work late hours on shitty pay below median wage. You better be fking appreciative anyone does it, it is not something you should take for granted. The fact that you treat as if it is a 'requirement' rather than something you are thankful for people working hard with you then **** YOU.

Have you tried your best? Did you even try your best before you started complaining? If you haven’t asked for help or done everything you could, then don’t come at me with insults Thankful? Seriously? I’m not going to keep thanking people for doing their job. It’s their career on the line, not mine. Sure, I appreciate the effort, but let’s be real. This is their own growth, not something to be coddled over.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Have you tried your best? Did you even try your best before you started complaining? If you haven’t asked for help or done everything you could, then don’t come at me with insults Thankful? Seriously? I’m not going to keep thanking people for doing their job. It’s their career on the line, not mine. Sure, I appreciate the effort, but let’s be real. This is their own growth, not something to be coddled over.

Their career is not on the line. they quit to do something better. you are the one whining that people quit and you have to do their job.

Did you pay people enough to justify trying their best? Why tf must people going to work earning a living wage be held to your stupid standards, or any standard other than what they deem is worthwhile for what they are being paid. Doing a job doesnt entail bending ur ass over to get fked and OT cus of you structural failure or all of your idiotic last minute changes in audit plan or additional things to add which causes 90% of all OT in the first place.

So take your personal growth and shove it up on your own ass and have some yourself to learn that the world isnt about you and we dont have to thank you for a job. If your job sucks, dont expect people to put in the effort and dont whine when they quit.

Dont fight lah

I think most of us here will retire outside of SG when the time comes

SG appears to be very stressed up society with all the inflation and pent up anger

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Their career is not on the line. they quit to do something better. you are the one whining that people quit and you have to do their job.

Did you pay people enough to justify trying their best? Why tf must people going to work earning a living wage be held to your stupid standards, or any standard other than what they deem is worthwhile for what they are being paid. Doing a job doesnt entail bending ur ass over to get fked and OT cus of you structural failure or all of your idiotic last minute changes in audit plan or additional things to add which causes 90% of all OT in the first place.

So take your personal growth and shove it up on your own ass and have some yourself to learn that the world isnt about you and we dont have to thank you for a job. If your job sucks, dont expect people to put in the effort and dont whine when they quit.

Just because someone quits doesn’t mean they have found something better. If they leave and it creates problems, that become an issue.

Every job has their own standards, whether you agree with them or not. You can’t decide what is worth doing just based on what you are paid. If you only want to do the bare minimum, don’t be surprised when others have to pick up your slack. Don’t expect any sympathy when you are called out for it.

Complaining about overtime and last-minute changes is part and parcel of every job, especially in this audit line. If you can’t handle that, then maybe this line of work isn’t for you. Stop blaming everything on structural issues and saying most overtime is due to last-minute changes. This is just an excuse to avoid your own responsibility.

Personal growth isn’t something to ignore just because it doesn’t fit your own narrative. It’s what helps people grow and succeed. If you are not interested in growing, then that’s your own choice, but don’t expect others to lower their standards because of it.

If you think quitting is the answer to every problem, maybe the real issue is your attitude, not the job.

You all complain so much. Now working time. If don't like audit just leave out of this industry.

Audit is just copy and paste job. easy peasy.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just because someone quits doesn’t mean they have found something better. If they leave and it creates problems, that become an issue.

Every job has their own standards, whether you agree with them or not. You can’t decide what is worth doing just based on what you are paid. If you only want to do the bare minimum, don’t be surprised when others have to pick up your slack. Don’t expect any sympathy when you are called out for it.

Complaining about overtime and last-minute changes is part and parcel of every job, especially in this audit line. If you can’t handle that, then maybe this line of work isn’t for you. Stop blaming everything on structural issues and saying most overtime is due to last-minute changes. This is just an excuse to avoid your own responsibility.

Personal growth isn’t something to ignore just because it doesn’t fit your own narrative. It’s what helps people grow and succeed. If you are not interested in growing, then that’s your own choice, but don’t expect others to lower their standards because of it.

If you think quitting is the answer to every problem, maybe the real issue is your attitude, not the job.

The Evil Overlords aka Partners must be happy. The Minions are distracted fighting among themselves so no one points the root cause to them.