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Old 30-12-2023, 07:18 PM
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You sway lor

You are in the ďtransitionĒ batch of seniors.

Your managers are from the old batch willing to work until 2am work weekends even work Chinese new year and Christmas.

Your juniors are fancy Gen Z who donít want to OT

Means you tank as the senior.
Yup, i'm in the same boat. Manager old school, junior refuse OT and weaponise incompetence. End up associate section also I have to do bc thr junior "cannot finish" or "do wrongly". Job market is non existent for auditors atm. Having horrible anxiety attacks too but cant leave since I also have dependent parents. Only solace is I dont ****ing care if they PIP me so I'm not in IMH yet.

Looks like TikTok has tons of tips on weaponising incompetence. Always the same tricks they employ.

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Old 30-12-2023, 07:22 PM
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You looking for genuine advice and kind soul on this forum which is know. To be filled with toxic trolls?

Brother, want to ask for help also go to the right place lah.
For example? Hwz is dead, reddit is either US-centric or the SG ones has rich kids or IT idiots who will just tell you to dont be sad or just resign or just do coding bro. IG and FB is just bad advice galore who will just tell you to report to MOM.

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Old 30-12-2023, 08:09 PM
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S1 is now high 4k while Associate is mid 3k.

Correct, the exchange rate makes it quite a good deal for them.

No, there has been a sharp culture shift these past 2 years with Gen Z firmly refusing to OT. You must have left some time ago.
mid 3k in 2024?
I would feel insulted to draw that same amount as a malaysian private uni as a batch mate.

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Old 30-12-2023, 08:15 PM
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Would really appreciate if someone here can give me a genuine advice. 3 more days to 2024 and Iím having an anxiety attack about the upcoming peak period engagements. Iím a first year senior who is plotted to lead multiple engagements for 2024. I had so much pressure dealing with the expectations of my multiple managers from different engagements during the interim fieldwork. It seems like to them that I have more than 24 hours a day to deal with work. Every requests from them is always urgent. I tried to push back some non-urgent stuff but they always like to indirectly use my final appraisal as a bargaining chip. Thereís no single day where I felt at peace. Ever since I just got promoted a couple of months ago, I started having suicidal thoughts. I donít feel motivated to get things done.

I really want to quit and find a much chiller job but at the same time I donít know if the current job market for a S1 is it terrible. Given the response here, it makes me more fear of quitting without a job on hand. I have 2 old retired parents to take care of, so every decision I made I have to be extra prudent and careful.

Can any kind souls advise me what I can do? Iím so scared I might snap soon

I feel you. there are tons of accountant roles in the market lol. its not that hard to find one if u are ok with 4500 +-, its just a slight pay cut from your S1 pay, without the much needed stress.

just so u know the upcoming peak will be very bad because they have not been actively recruiting seniors. they are trying to get rid of as much malaysians as possible if im not wrong due to the new EP requirement

tough luck for any malaysians JHK stalking this forum. go back your kampong. my country don't need u to come steal our rice bowl. sohai lol


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mid 3k in 2024?
I would feel insulted to draw that same amount as a malaysian private uni as a batch mate.
Then you are in the wrong place, simple as that.

B4 operates on a (now irrelevant) delayed gratification model where as a fresh graduate you are expected to balance work and study, and wonít become a qualified accountant until 3 years later.

If you want high starting pay, please look elsewhere; this is not the class for you.

That said, at least ISCA has finally recognised Gen Z does not appreciate delayed gratification, so they are apparently working with local universities for students to clear papers before graduating which will fasten their qualification journey.
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For example? Hwz is dead, reddit is either US-centric or the SG ones has rich kids or IT idiots who will just tell you to dont be sad or just resign or just do coding bro. IG and FB is just bad advice galore who will just tell you to report to MOM.
You got no friends or mentors is it
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You got no friends or mentors is it
Some of us are not privileged and are from backgrounds where we are surrounded by people with no ambitions and have the crab in a bucket mentality. Pwned so many times by bad advice IRL.
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I feel you. there are tons of accountant roles in the market lol. its not that hard to find one if u are ok with 4500 +-, its just a slight pay cut from your S1 pay, without the much needed stress.

just so u know the upcoming peak will be very bad because they have not been actively recruiting seniors. they are trying to get rid of as much malaysians as possible if im not wrong due to the new EP requirement

tough luck for any malaysians JHK stalking this forum. go back your kampong. my country don't need u to come steal our rice bowl. sohai lol
lol so time for us sinkies to bai lan and let the jhks tank? since they need us for the quota muahaha
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Then you are in the wrong place, simple as that.

B4 operates on a (now irrelevant) delayed gratification model where as a fresh graduate you are expected to balance work and study, and wonít become a qualified accountant until 3 years later.

If you want high starting pay, please look elsewhere; this is not the class for you.

That said, at least ISCA has finally recognised Gen Z does not appreciate delayed gratification, so they are apparently working with local universities for students to clear papers before graduating which will fasten their qualification journey.
Delayed gratification? All my seniors and managers cant find jobs, can find also need to take huge paycut. Sacrificed their health for nothing.
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This one they very what

Only need to take 1 module

But lol that 1 module, if you take before, you know what I mean
Share? Open book, waste time waste $$
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