SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay

Just for the benefit those people trying to use smoke and mirrors to somehow elevate the worth of an SIM degree, here are the educational pedigrees of the "street smart" high school dropouts

Bill Gates: High school graduate with SAT score of 1590 out of 1600 --> Havard (majored in pre-law) --> programming

Mark Zuckerberg: High school acheiver (captain of fencing team, earned a classics diploma) --> Harvard --> programming

Mark Cuban: University of Pittsburg --> IU Bloomington B-school

Michael Dell: High school --> University of Texas (pre-Med) --> businessman


How about

Your average SIM student --> ???

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is a C-level position and far higher than any position you would ever achieve in your sorry life. Sats is a $1.7b company and of course there are bigger MNCs out there. I'd like to see your arrogant ass try to even get near to a Deputy GM/MD/CEO in one of their subsidiaries you snob.

Anyway you asked for an example so here it is.

Come on, get real. This Dainel's food is only worth $230m and is certainly NOT MNC calibre. Don't try to smoke your way out when you can't even cite ONE concrete example to back up your bombastic claim.

To bring some perspective with some of our local brands, here are the market values of a few:

1) M1 - $2,600m
2) Eu Yan Sang - $450m
3) Chip Eng Seng - $450m
4) Low Keng Huat - $450m
5) Sheng Siong - $1,300m
6) Challenger - $170m

When was the last time you heard someone from Sheng Siong or M1 claim they work in a MNC? $1.7B might sound big to normal people like us on a personal level, but nobody would consider this sort of size MNC in any common financial understanding of the word.

I see you are getting all emotional and now displaying gratuitous belligerence when you have clearly failed to even cite ONE single proper example to justify your outlandish claims.

Let's just leave it at that. People can look at the facts and make reasonable conclusions of their own.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just for the benefit those people trying to use smoke and mirrors to somehow elevate the worth of an SIM degree, here are the educational pedigrees of the "street smart" high school dropouts

Bill Gates: High school graduate with SAT score of 1590 out of 1600 --> Havard (majored in pre-law) --> programming

Mark Zuckerberg: High school acheiver (captain of fencing team, earned a classics diploma) --> Harvard --> programming

Mark Cuban: University of Pittsburg --> IU Bloomington B-school

Michael Dell: High school --> University of Texas (pre-Med) --> businessman


How about

Your average SIM student --> ???

Never quite relate how a private uni student draws inspiration from these guys. I mean all of them made it big through entrepreneurship and AFAIK most private uni grads are trying to look for jobs in big mncs/banks. Their paths couldn't have been more different.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is a C-level position and far higher than any position you would ever achieve in your sorry life. Sats is a $1.7b company and of course there are bigger MNCs out there. I'd like to see your arrogant ass try to even get near to a Deputy GM/MD/CEO in one of their subsidiaries you snob.

Anyway you asked for an example so here it is.

SIA is an MNC. Sats is not.

This guy is not even the CEO of Sats. He is the CEO of a few subsidaries of Sats.

Thats just a CEO of a couple of SMEs and he no longer even holds the position.

Your example got 0 points and the fact remains that there is no non-degree holder in top management positions in prominent MNCs today.

Regardless of the imaginations of SIMbians.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sats later sold Daniels Group for $230m. While definitely not in the league of Shell or Apple or Google it is no small change and still relevant to our discussion.


://.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9QJFSTO2.htm

Sorry, just couldn't resist chipping in on this.

Apple market cap is $680b compare to Daniels $0.23b, we are talking about a nearly 300,000% difference here.

You might as well say when it comes to career progression although your Toa Payoh ah beng handphone shop not in the league of Singtel but is still relevant to the discussion.

Jeezzz.... some folks here really have no sense of proportion.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry, just couldn't resist chipping in on this.

Apple market cap is $680b compare to Daniels $0.23b, we are talking about a nearly 300,000% difference here.

You might as well say when it comes to career progression although your Toa Payoh ah beng handphone shop not in the league of Singtel but is still relevant to the discussion.

Jeezzz.... some folks here really have no sense of proportion.

SIMbians cannot even get their finance 101 correct.... still want to boast of being street smart and bulls**t that their business degree just as good as local uni.

Instead of talking, why not you local graduates post your pay slip, and I'll post mine. If course including stats that matters, like age, years of experience, etc. We'll see who's doing better. Lol. I may not be in the top 15% earners for my age, but still convinced enough that most of the local graduates are paid less than me. So, save your critics and show some digits.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Instead of talking, why not you local graduates post your pay slip, and I'll post mine. If course including stats that matters, like age, years of experience, etc. We'll see who's doing better. Lol. I may not be in the top 15% earners for my age, but still convinced enough that most of the local graduates are paid less than me. So, save your critics and show some digits.

Nobody really cares about insurance agents / MLMers / financial consultants / private bankers / real estate agents / forex workshop conductors.

You might earn more, but you got 0 respect.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Instead of talking, why not you local graduates post your pay slip, and I'll post mine. If course including stats that matters, like age, years of experience, etc. We'll see who's doing better. Lol. I may not be in the top 15% earners for my age, but still convinced enough that most of the local graduates are paid less than me. So, save your critics and show some digits.

People here are having a serious discussion on the limitations and opportunities of career progression in MNC space with diploma or private degree certification and here you are contributing nothing to the discourse and more interested in boasting how much money you make.

Grow up, nobody is interested in participating in your my-payslip-is-better-than-your-payslip p*nis contest.

://.londoninternational.ac.uk/community/londonconnection/articles/features/level-meltdown-oxford-scholar


Local Uni graduates??? comments???