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Old 25-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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Hi, sorry but i dont think I should have a higher pay, and of course i'm not naive to think all degrees are equal haha, and certainly what you say is/may be very true about not even have achieved a 3rd class if we're in a local uni.

Yes, you are very right, and i would gladly accept $500 less than a uni grad.
My point is, many HR managers in Govt sector and other companies have an elitist mindset, and i agree to the previous comment prior to my comment (about elitism). So if so many companies want a local uni 1st class, where do we get jobs?

Just to share my exp abit more: Being a 1st class in local uni doesnt mean one can get the job done, the reason why I got the interview with the HR manager was because he hired 2 1st/2nd class local uni grad, who couldnt manage the job and left after 2 months.
sometimes could be that they are being poached by companies offering better salary package.

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Hi, sorry but i dont think I should have a higher pay, and of course i'm not naive to think all degrees are equal haha, and certainly what you say is/may be very true about not even have achieved a 3rd class if we're in a local uni.

Yes, you are very right, and i would gladly accept $500 less than a uni grad.
My point is, many HR managers in Govt sector and other companies have an elitist mindset, and i agree to the previous comment prior to my comment (about elitism). So if so many companies want a local uni 1st class, where do we get jobs?

Just to share my exp abit more: Being a 1st class in local uni doesnt mean one can get the job done, the reason why I got the interview with the HR manager was because he hired 2 1st/2nd class local uni grad, who couldnt manage the job and left after 2 months.
just to share... i got my 2nd job in a US MNC back in 2010 after about 5 years in my first (GLC). it was tolerable but a wrong job fit for me and i found myself looking for jobs about 4 months in. after sending in countless resumes and attending a few interviews it took me another 20 months or so before i moved to my current job (GLC).

even with my experience and regional exposure it took me some time to get a job. i found that it was a total waste of time to apply for CS, stat board or newly-corporatised govt agencies... the furthest i went was an interview where u could sense the elitism radiating from the panel of interviewers. just continue your job search and u will find a suitable one sooner or later. all the best in your job search!

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Old 25-03-2013, 10:59 PM
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No offense to most uol grads here.

But why are u guys so adamant in getting into the banking and finance industry? If you guys are thinking about getting into IBD, go take a look at linkedin at all the summer analysts from undergrad/ masters programs. Take a look at their credentials, then ask yourself what do you have in common with them. Other than which uni they came from, look at what else they have. Before someone tell me that they knew of a UOL grad who had made it into IBD, that is probably like 1% from the rest of the pool of "elites". And those 1% "lucky" UOL chaps either have some uber ninja networking skills or had CFA equivalent certs and etc. Things might be a little different but i hope you guys know what i'm trying to say here.

So if it's not IBD that you're aiming for, then what? middle office? risk mgt department? Or derivatives trading? compliance? back office ops? You have NTU,NUS,SMU,all the private Us and ppl who are thinking of making a career switch competing with you. I have a HR friend in 1 of the local big banks. She told me that they picked a NTU physics graduate with no experience over a FCH BNF UOL grad for a position in corporate finance team. U see, even fresh grads from other non-finance related faculty are competing with you guys.

Don't let the banking craze cloud your judgement. Open your eyes and look around. Read more news and talk to friends in other industries. I have UOL friends working in SGX, finance dept in some of the MNCs. I even know 1 chap who was doing admin/ops in a big agri trading house specialising in oil seeds, grain etc. Some networking here and there and slogged through countless of OTs, the firm finally bumped him up to be a full time trader.
But if you're still dead-fixed on heading into the BNF industry, then i wish you good luck. Persevere on, moderate your ambitions and be mindful of your surrounding and you will go far.
UOL class of 2011 grad here. It is certainly not true that UOL students would not be able to find a job in BNF. UOL grads out there, DON'T DESPAIR.

I found a job faster than my peers from local unis. Landed in a top bulge bracket middle office role and earning better than my peers from local unis as well. I went for top IB FO assessment centres WITHOUT any network. Unfortunately, was rejected after final round.

Read widely, network and make yourself known in the industry. You'll be fine. Once you're in there, it's all about your ability, and no one would remember about whichever school you came from. I've now moved on to FO, but not with the bb bank. Anything is possible if only you'd be persistent and wiggle your way through, wisely.

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UOL class of 2011 grad here. It is certainly not true that UOL students would not be able to find a job in BNF. UOL grads out there, DON'T DESPAIR.

I found a job faster than my peers from local unis. Landed in a top bulge bracket middle office role and earning better than my peers from local unis as well. I went for top IB FO assessment centres WITHOUT any network. Unfortunately, was rejected after final round.

Read widely, network and make yourself known in the industry. You'll be fine. Once you're in there, it's all about your ability, and no one would remember about whichever school you came from. I've now moved on to FO, but not with the bb bank. Anything is possible if only you'd be persistent and wiggle your way through, wisely.
what is your class of honours?
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Fresh Grad graduating in May 2013

Starting Pay: $3,500
Historical Average Bonus: 4-8 months
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Fresh Grad graduating in May 2013

Starting Pay: $3,500
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U Uol have been hired for 3.5k?
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U Uol have been hired for 3.5k?
Nope. I'm from Nanyang Business School. But to be very honest, over at our side, its really tough finding jobs too. Many are still desperate at this stage.
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Nope. I'm from Nanyang Business School. But to be very honest, over at our side, its really tough finding jobs too. Many are still desperate at this stage.
oh. Bank or consulting firm? NBS has the reputation and I believe 3.5k is not too difficult? Did you negotiate for a higher salary or the employer quotes you that amount? To most employers, asking for a mere 3.5k now is like asking for sky high amount ...


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Nope. I'm from Nanyang Business School. But to be very honest, over at our side, its really tough finding jobs too. Many are still desperate at this stage.
at this stage is haven grad or grad for almost a yr liao?


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oh. Bank or consulting firm? NBS has the reputation and I believe 3.5k is not too difficult? Did you negotiate for a higher salary or the employer quotes you that amount? To most employers, asking for a mere 3.5k now is like asking for sky high amount ...
jobhunter korkor/zehzeh u ish from huat school huat major de? If cannot say jus say da school? heeheee
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