SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Huh.... Also don't believe too much into such surveys on graduate salaries.

Graduate salaries is real okay.

Cause everyone want to feel good they enter their salary high high...
Gross pay 3.6k they enter as
3.6k + 15% CPF + aws / 12 + estimated bonus / 12 ..

make them feel shiok...
at least that what i did when i enter the graduate salary survey hehehe...
but sorry, i bodoh... don' tknow what is gross salary...
i thought gross means ... include all..

This is a tough period for the job market; bashing for a long period of time.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So you are conveniently disregarding the several LinkedIn urls (out of many from the vast ocean) shared earlier?

Here's a serious question: are you intellectually challenged? Mainstream media survey data = 100% Genuine? Look at the first few posts of this thread. Local uni grads back then are already shitting on local uni graduate surveys.

Do you not know what survey integrity (i.e. representative sample among others) is?Better yet, have you taken a look at the recent ST essential/non-essential job survey?

Feel better alright? 2.3k traineeships are on the horizon I reckon, quit crying.

Are you conveniently ignoring the majority of SIM grads who are unable to find jobs then? If local uni grads have resulted to taking up '2.3k traineeships' according to you, what about private grads? I'm sure it applies to us as well? So far you have been consistently picking the cream of the crop from SIM and making (I can't even tell what type of) comparisons with local U grads. I mean we all know that there will be success stories from whichever uni you are from, local or private, but whats the objective in comparing the top 1 percentile with the 75?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I thought the other forum they say their summer internship is 5k++.

Wah all the local grad uni officially graduated enter work force... only pathetitc 2.2k internship...

Sad sia.

Better than jobless SIM graduates 😔😔😔

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So you are conveniently disregarding the several LinkedIn urls (out of many from the vast ocean) shared earlier?

Here's a serious question: are you intellectually challenged? Mainstream media survey data = 100% Genuine? Look at the first few posts of this thread. Local uni grads back then are already shitting on local uni graduate surveys.

Do you not know what survey integrity (i.e. representative sample among others) is?Better yet, have you taken a look at the recent ST essential/non-essential job survey?

Feel better alright? 2.3k traineeships are on the horizon I reckon, quit crying.

So you base your imaginative statistics by nitpicking some rare, unverified Linkedin profiles (that anyone can easily fake) of "successful" SIM graduates while conveniently leaving out the majority who are jobless or have abysmal low paying jobs? There are easily many more LinkedIn profiles of successful NUS/NTU grads than the handful and limited numbers you found. Is that how SIM taught students on sample size and quantitative reasoning? Nobody is saying the government's survey is 100% accurate but I bet its more accurate than your imagination. So can you find me a research study that shows SIM students have better job prospects other pulling out random Linkedin profiles? I bet there's none. This speak volumes on why SIM grads command such low pay.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you conveniently ignoring the majority of SIM grads who are unable to find jobs then? If local uni grads have resulted to taking up '2.3k traineeships' according to you, what about private grads? I'm sure it applies to us as well? So far you have been consistently picking the cream of the crop from SIM and making (I can't even tell what type of) comparisons with local U grads. I mean we all know that there will be success stories from whichever uni you are from, local or private, but whats the objective in comparing the top 1 percentile with the 75?

Not 2.3k sir, 2.2k (as verified by a 2nd local uni grad on this forum itself).

They are not the top 1 percentile btw, but whatever suits your agenda I guess.

Quit being salty when the guy whom you disagreed with said "there a bunch" "there a handful of".

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So you base your imaginative statistics by nitpicking some rare, unverified Linkedin profiles (that anyone can easily fake) of "successful" SIM graduates while conveniently leaving out the majority who are jobless or have abysmal low paying jobs? There are easily many more LinkedIn profiles of successful NUS/NTU grads than the handful and limited numbers you found. Is that how SIM taught students on sample size and quantitative reasoning? Nobody is saying the government's survey is 100% accurate but I bet its more accurate than your imagination. So can you find me a research study that shows SIM students have better job prospects other pulling out random Linkedin profiles? I bet there's none. This speak volumes on why SIM grads command such low pay.

LinkedIn URLs with actual names, digital CV & personal information = "imagination"
Anonymous survey (where any tom, dick and harry can put 200k p.a.) = "government survey" "this is more accurate"

Pretty much sums up local uni grads LOL

If you love confirmation bias that much, sure! local uni grads are doing fine~

Those threads you see on ppl struggling to land FT jobs / taking up 2.2k internships @ salary.sg? They are totally fake!

Wake up la you are lurking a private uni forum trying to wave your non-existent e-dick.

Quit crying

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not 2.3k sir, 2.2k (as verified by a 2nd local uni grad on this forum itself).

They are not the top 1 percentile btw, but whatever suits your agenda I guess.

Quit being salty when the guy whom you disagreed with said "there a bunch" "there a handful of".

Can confirm, I'm a 2nd upper from NUS and I hereby verify that all of us are getting paid 1.9k in our traineeship allowance. Therefore, as a 2nd local uni grad in this forum myself, I decree that we shall lower the allowance used in the comparisons of top-private-uni grads to 2nd-upper-local-uni grads from 2.2k to 1.9k to ensure a fairer discussion.

Ngl, watching pathetic local uni grads whine & getting triggered in a SIM-UOL forum is pretty top tier CB entertainment 😂

#RentFree

I can't help but shake my head at local uni students. Yes, we didn't do well in poly or jc. Yes we command lower pay than local university students. Yes, we may find it harder to secure jobs. But we have humility and empathy. We don't go round bashing others. We take the time instead to improve ourselves and help others. This human touch is what local uni do not have. Just study like zombies. Only can do well on paper but zero inside the heart.