obviously, Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates made it to Harvard.

LOL! This made me laugh! At the same time, the delusional self-psyching is pathetic yet sad. Kind of like those proud Malaysians who go around claiming that KL is better than SG and that English is their lingua franca. 😂

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I think whatever the uni, its more important to just make the best of what you can. 40 years of working life so make the most of it :)

I think all you SIM people please know your place la, if you get a place in NUS/NTU, you choose SIM over that meh? simi sai wake up your idea la losers

No wonder the girls from SIM so easy to piak. Brainless and open legs easy!

Hey anyone had experience with both the 3 local uni and local private uni undergrad programs? Is 3 local uni undergrad significantly more challenging than local private uni?

if you can get in a local U, do it. SIM is bad for your career

Summore you network with all the useless peers from SIM compare local uni. You confirm doomed for life.

To put things into perspective, SIM graduates will lose out in terms of opportunities at the beginning. Opportunities include top management associate or graduate programs/front office investment banking jobs. Apart from these roles, companies may or not may not discriminate against SIM graduates in terms of salary or being shortlisted for interview.

Those opportunities only take in top percentage of each cohort. The majority of graduates will start off at executive fresh grads job in private or government sector.

The best advice I can give to SIM graduates is to accept the reality of life and not to keep justifying that you all are better than local uni graduates in terms of other areas.

That said, every graduate (regardless private or local uni) should strive to excel in your career path. Having a good boss/mentor and company at the early stage of your career do help. As you progress in your career, many factors come into place in terms of promotion. Your priorites may change as you are more experienced. Just be the best of yourself.

I agree. I went to local u, my jc classmates that have lousier results coz they played too much went to sim.

Ten years later, the outcome and earning potential is the same.

Then you probably sucked

That’s why so many private uni girls after graduate sell their bodies instead of working. Cannot find good and well paid job as compared to local uni ppl.

Local uni 2nd lower or private uni 2nd upper better prospects?

local la of coz .... no matter what class even 1st class private will always be inferior to 3rd class local uni student .... just look at their starting pay!

i agree with you. private students will always be in the class of beggers, while local students will always be in the class of royals.

I’m a honours (merit), new scheme of 2nd lower
From local biz sch

Worked with one SIM 1st class and another SIM 2nd upper
They’re good and smart people

SIM grad posing as local uni grad. Lmao

I have graduated from SIM about 5 years ago and it was one of the worst decisions I made in my entire life then! Would like to share my learning and story with all to avoid falling into the degree bandwagon.

Like every aspiring grads then, I envision myself working in banks or financial institutions rolling in the dough. However reality sets in , upon graduating I sent out countless cvs to banks, financial institutions and MNCs and only 1 SME responded asking whether am I interested to take up another position in the IT department as IT support. They were more interested in my diploma which was in IT instead of the degree.
As I have been jobless for about 9 months with little or no response then, I went for the interview and subsequently took up the offer with a starting pay of $1.6k. With the impression that I could look for a proper one while earning a pay cheque. That illusion was shattered as I still could not get any responses and interviews for finance or banking jobs. Speaking to a number of recruiters later, they shared my experience is already too entrenched in IT support and their clients would rather hire fresh grads from locals or foreign unis.

It has been 5 years and I am now drawing close to $3k a month as IT support lead but I am still servicing the study loans I took out to study 8 years ago. Have just settled about 40 percent of the loan and have another 8 more years to go which by then I would be 35. I am currently planning to take a part time computer science degree sometime in the future from a local unis once I manage to clear my previous study loans. Yes another degree as the business degree I gotten then is really irrelevant for me in this field.

My mentor shared that then instead of studying for a degree from a private uni, I should have started working. This way I could have save up the cash and hopefully upgraded myself and could pursue a part time degree with a local university after 8 to 10 years working and saving for it. That would improve my earning potential and also reduce any financial burden

Just sharing what I have been thru and what I learnt during these few years.
For poly grads, don't jump onto the bandwagon to get a degree from private unis if you can't enter a local uni. Instead just head out and work, save the money and if by 30 or 35 you are still keen on pursing a degree, can consider part time at local unis.
As for private uni grads, just be grateful you have a job, clear your loans fast if you have and don't be sour at this discrimination, just accept that's the price for not studying and taking things seriously during the younger days.

Good comment! 9 out 10 Private uni people will always have to be beggers! while only 1 out of 10 local uni people will have to be begger in life with those being the lowest achievers like third class honors people!!!!

above comment regarding private uni students are smart:

I don't doubt that there are smart people from private unis who may not have done well for A levels or Poly.

Unfortunately in Singapore, certifications matter and local uni > private uni

Regarding your comments:

Nobody cares whether you are from local uni or private uni after working for a few years; unless you are doing a very specialised n technical field.

Many jobs will be gone due to automation in the years to come. Employees face restructuring in companies or retrenchment, whether you are from local or private uni.

Dont let your paper qualifications limit your perspective about your career path in Singapore.

Just a question. Supposedly your poly grades are not good enough to enter local uni then you choose sim, how u are able to choose part time degree studies in local u now?

I beg to differ. I personally miss out on honours due to poor results and I don't think I am beggars. In fact, I am one of the better earners than my local uni peers. There are also other third class and non honours graduates doing well at thier career. A lot depends on EQ and working attitude. Study and work capability is not equal.

You are just one of those with better luck.

Hello 10 char

Whr r u from? Glad you made it

I am from local U engineering field. Just want to say getting 3rd class or lower does not mean we are not capable or unable to be successful in career. My GPA just fall below 3 and still doing quite ok.

Useless people trying to console themselves

How do you define useless people? Can you tell me the range?

SIM is a waste of time and money.

Insecure and no money.

That applies to anyone and not just 3rd class or lower local U grad.

So since anyone is insecure and no money, why do you go around calling people useless?

It is clear who the majority audience of this thread are. Good advice are often being ignored; you guys can

just keep on arguing on local vs private uni or first class vs third class.

Has Anyone from private uni or local uni poor honours done a

Local uni masters? Say a master of science or an mba to top up the undergrad deg?

If your uni gradEs are not good or you are from private uni. No local uni will ever take you for masters. It’s just as realistic as this. Don’t dream of turning from frog to a prince. There is no fairy tale in this world.

Not true entirely; dont use the word 'ever'. I was a private uni who went on to do masters in local uni. But this was 6 years ago. I dont even have a 2nd upper. You can chooose not to believe me. I am also working in a top company in the industry.

You really post without using your brains. I am sim uol 2nd upper, did gmat and finished my applied finance masters with smu. Not trying to brag, it's not a big ****ing deal. But it seems like you are just a ****ing kid who hasn't step into the professional working world to see and meet enough people.

How are your prospects before and after the masters?

Any significant difference? Was it part time or full time?

Full time, was in a fkn **** hole back office, resigned and took masters after finishing my gmat, job hunt for 4 months, now in research albeit a junior role but the cash compensation is of someone who's between an avp/VP level in ops.

cash compensation is of someone who's between an avp/VP level in ops is roughly equal to how much annual?

I am also interested to take master in NUS. I am from NTU without honors. Just wondering if they will accept my application.