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jjjec 28-02-2022 10:22 PM

Career Advise needed - Tourism/Hospitality Grad
 
Hi all, would love to have some advice.

Local diploma + Private Uni degree in tourism/hospitality.

Working experience wise, worked in small boutique hotel as front desk and subsequently assistant manager, then afterwards worked in SME in tourism-related biz for around 2yrs, managerial role but barely hitting 3k salary at age 28, gotta work all weekends and PHs, with zero employee benefit.

Am thinking to switch career to something that has more growth perspective - as well as salary wise. Hospitality industry pay has always been lower than the rest, but now with covid it is getting even tougher.

Any recommendation on what avenues I may explore? Would my managerial experience helps with me getting Managament Trainee programs in some MNC? Or should I try to totally change industry and start from scratch? My concern is that my education and working experience are 90% hospitality and service related - which means I pretty much have no 'skills'.

PS: I have worked as financial planner before for less than a year, due to hating the pushy-sales culture. But I realised there are also financial planner jobs which are fixed hours with decent basic salary? Any insights would be great as well.

Preferably I can find a new job with stable working hours, starting somewhere near 3k as well, with decent employee benefits.. so that on weekends i can take up some part time stints. but am open to all ideas now really :( Feeling the financial burden upon marriage and baby

Many Thanks.

Unregistered 28-02-2022 10:31 PM

Sounds like a generic public service office job in a stat board or maybe a healthcare institution would fit your bill.

You will almost certainly:
-earn more than $3k
-enjoy working normal office hours (for most roles)
-have some level of career progression ahead

But your private degree will make it difficult to even enter. It's not impossible, but the odds may be lower for you. Still good to give those a try.

Good luck!

Unregistered 28-02-2022 10:35 PM

Can try PA, shouldn't be too hard to get in

jjjec 28-02-2022 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205484)
Sounds like a generic public service office job in a stat board or maybe a healthcare institution would fit your bill.

You will almost certainly:
-earn more than $3k
-enjoy working normal office hours (for most roles)
-have some level of career progression ahead

But your private degree will make it difficult to even enter. It's not impossible, but the odds may be lower for you. Still good to give those a try.

Good luck!

Hi there,

Thanks for the prompt advise.

Stat board wise - does that refer to jobs from careers@gov? Indeed i feel my pte degree will be a challenge. So far I applied twice before and both failed.

Would you have some position roles name which i can search for? are the salaries really easily 3k even for entry level roles? Thanks!

jjjec 28-02-2022 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205485)
Can try PA, shouldn't be too hard to get in

Hi there, by PA you mean?

Unregistered 28-02-2022 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjec (Post 205494)
Hi there,

Thanks for the prompt advise.

Stat board wise - does that refer to jobs from careers@gov? Indeed i feel my pte degree will be a challenge. So far I applied twice before and both failed.

Would you have some position roles name which i can search for? are the salaries really easily 3k even for entry level roles? Thanks!

Yes, if you manage to get into entry level degree holder job in the public sector. You can command at least 3.2K salary (with NS)

Avg bonus (including AWS) : 2- 4 months

Unregistered 28-02-2022 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjec (Post 205495)
Hi there, by PA you mean?

Peoples association yo

Unregistered 28-02-2022 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjec (Post 205494)
Hi there,

Thanks for the prompt advise.

Stat board wise - does that refer to jobs from careers@gov? Indeed i feel my pte degree will be a challenge. So far I applied twice before and both failed.

Would you have some position roles name which i can search for? are the salaries really easily 3k even for entry level roles? Thanks!

You can try searching for Senior Executive or Assistant Manager. Those are typical entry level degree holder roles. There may be other titles for suitable entry level roles, but I can't advise of what these are (browse around the Careers@Gov site and find out).

Based on what some others on this forum have said, they might put you on Executive (one rank below Senior Executive) if you have a private degree. You have work experience though, so I'm not sure what position you would be seen as fit for if hired.

Some on this forum have also said that with a private degree you will have zero chance to enter a Ministry, but a tiny chance of getting hired by a Stat Board. I can't verify if it's true but you might wish to note when applying.

Finally...most people have said that it took multiple (many many) applications to various listings to even secure an interview from anything on Careers@Gov. Getting no reply for 2 applications isn't abnormal.

Finding a job is a full time job in itself, and I've been there before. Keep applying and give your best submission for each position you apply too. Don't give up!

Unregistered 01-03-2022 12:05 AM

How about do a tech bootcamp and try for some startup/sme! Can earn big bucks..

Unregistered 01-03-2022 12:20 AM

OP dont be dishearted.

I had a private degree too but managed to join one of the Stat Boards as a Executive which gives a starting pay above 3K.
I applied for over 20 openings though.

Never give up.

Unregistered 01-03-2022 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjjec (Post 205482)
Hi all, would love to have some advice.

Local diploma + Private Uni degree in tourism/hospitality.

Working experience wise, worked in small boutique hotel as front desk and subsequently assistant manager, then afterwards worked in SME in tourism-related biz for around 2yrs, managerial role but barely hitting 3k salary at age 28, gotta work all weekends and PHs, with zero employee benefit.

Am thinking to switch career to something that has more growth perspective - as well as salary wise. Hospitality industry pay has always been lower than the rest, but now with covid it is getting even tougher.

Any recommendation on what avenues I may explore? Would my managerial experience helps with me getting Managament Trainee programs in some MNC? Or should I try to totally change industry and start from scratch? My concern is that my education and working experience are 90% hospitality and service related - which means I pretty much have no 'skills'.

PS: I have worked as financial planner before for less than a year, due to hating the pushy-sales culture. But I realised there are also financial planner jobs which are fixed hours with decent basic salary? Any insights would be great as well.

Preferably I can find a new job with stable working hours, starting somewhere near 3k as well, with decent employee benefits.. so that on weekends i can take up some part time stints. but am open to all ideas now really :( Feeling the financial burden upon marriage and baby

Many Thanks.


Bro , have u consider joining Tech sector, Tech doesn't mean u gonna be a coder, you can be a business analyst or project management and yes these pay well. starting pay range from 5k++

Unregistered 01-03-2022 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205524)
Bro , have u consider joining Tech sector, Tech doesn't mean u gonna be a coder, you can be a business analyst or project management and yes these pay well. starting pay range from 5k++

require the person to reskill and then fight for job against specialist freshies. u think so easy

Unregistered 01-03-2022 10:36 AM

The Marriage and Baby is definitely a huge nump to your upcoming expenses..

Your wife working?

Unregistered 01-03-2022 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205524)
Bro , have u consider joining Tech sector, Tech doesn't mean u gonna be a coder, you can be a business analyst or project management and yes these pay well. starting pay range from 5k++

Huh?

A business analyst does code... it's in python. Literally most of their job posting requires you to know python. The ones that don't are jobs that pay below 4.5k. The high pay comes from the fact that they can do both code, data science related tasks and work on metrics.

A product manager does not pull 5k monthly also. I checked Shopee, their PM only pulls 4k while their tech-roles all pull 5-6k.

Unregistered 01-03-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205552)
Huh?

A business analyst does code... it's in python. Literally most of their job posting requires you to know python. The ones that don't are jobs that pay below 4.5k. The high pay comes from the fact that they can do both code, data science related tasks and work on metrics.

A product manager does not pull 5k monthly also. I checked Shopee, their PM only pulls 4k while their tech-roles all pull 5-6k.

Shopee PM got so little meh? If joining with experience like 4 years or so should be able to command at least 6k no?

Unregistered 01-03-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205558)
Shopee PM got so little meh? If joining with experience like 4 years or so should be able to command at least 6k no?

Sorry bro not sure where does the 4 years of experience come from.

We talking about TS? or are you asking about someone in general with 4 YOE?

If in general then yeah, more YOE = higher pay, you're right.

But if we're talking about TS then no. TS experiences are all irrelevant fields. On top of that private degree? quite hard to get fair pay. Shopee is your typical company that looks at GPA, school name and all these nonsense.

Unregistered 01-03-2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205512)
OP dont be dishearted.

I had a private degree too but managed to join one of the Stat Boards as a Executive which gives a starting pay above 3K.
I applied for over 20 openings though.

Never give up.

Thanks mate, and posters above as well.

I will start applying for more Stat Board roles.

Can yall advise also whether these roles are generally fixed hours without OT? I have heard of someone working for Ppl Association (like HDB related jobscope) and had to work lots of OT without pay at times. But iirc the role earns around 4k with pretty good AWS

Unregistered 01-03-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205548)
The Marriage and Baby is definitely a huge nump to your upcoming expenses..

Your wife working?

Working, but under WP and current job pays not so well. Hopefully can get better job better salary soon / LTVP.

Unregistered 01-03-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205562)
Working, but under WP and current job pays not so well. Hopefully can get better job better salary soon / LTVP.

Most employee don't know LTVP. Sad right.

Unregistered 02-03-2022 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205562)
Working, but under WP and current job pays not so well. Hopefully can get better job better salary soon / LTVP.

All the best Bro.

Like some have mentioned, going Civil/Public service may be your best option if looking at Stability for upcoming Family. If just want high-income, then no choice have to do sales.

Unregistered 02-03-2022 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205560)
Sorry bro not sure where does the 4 years of experience come from.

We talking about TS? or are you asking about someone in general with 4 YOE?

If in general then yeah, more YOE = higher pay, you're right.

But if we're talking about TS then no. TS experiences are all irrelevant fields. On top of that private degree? quite hard to get fair pay. Shopee is your typical company that looks at GPA, school name and all these nonsense.

It's quite True on Shopee is the typical type that look at your school name.

I also from Private U, applied Shopee before with relevant work experiences didn't even get a call-up. Bank hired me instead though, so no complains here.

Unregistered 03-03-2022 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 205724)
It's quite True on Shopee is the typical type that look at your school name.

I also from Private U, applied Shopee before with relevant work experiences didn't even get a call-up. Bank hired me instead though, so no complains here.

look at school name means what? u need to bring them a manifying glass and look at the degree cert?


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