Is it the norm to ask for pay increases with every job hunt?

[miwashi]

yep, I know about job function, but I was asking, what industries do the above organizations fall in, so if I get jobs there I can plan where I can move to?

IPOS, MOM, WDA have me stumped... the rest I can roughly guess.

Originally Posted by miwashi

yep, I know about job function, but I was asking, what industries do the above organizations fall in, so if I get jobs there I can plan where I can move to?

IPOS, MOM, WDA have me stumped... the rest I can roughly guess.

actually some job functions are cross-industry. no need care which industry such as HR, Corp comm, legal, finance, admin, IT, corp planning.

[Joe123]

whats the point if the job scope increases and the pay stay the same or lower?

there are many ass out there that are doing lesser and getting more pay. think again buddy.

Originally Posted by miwashi

For the last 5 years I have sent out 280+ applications and only got 2 job offers, and both came with pay cuts, either $800 or $1000 from my current job.

Today I attended another interview, and the HR director asked me, 'why are you stating your currently drawn pay as your expected pay?'

I was stumped, and thought she was hinting that they could only offer less.

Then she explained, 'usually everyone would state an increased amount as their expected salary'.

This is totally new to me, given my situation where the only offers I get come with major major pay cuts.


Are you supposed to indicate a higher expected salary than your current nowadays?

Did you get the job?

[miwashi]

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It's ok. Look on the bright side. You have a stable job. The salary is decent. And lots of free time.

if you interested to move, try to acquire softskills that is being valued nowsadays.
eg. people, planning, managerial, marketing, virtual team skills ... try to explore within your current role/company

the other thing is go for positions where your skills set, experience can add value to the new role. Softskills are transferable, going to different industry can be useful.

Study in some courses may help too.

Your resume/CV should be max 2 pages only, highlighting your achievements and not too much on your work scope.

good luck.

[miwashi]

the thing is, I'm in a dead end job supervising grasscutting.
There are virtually no soft skills to be had.
Last year, for example, I attended no courses at all! I attended the organization's talks where they blow trumpets about the latest study trip they went for, or the latest event they organized, that sort of thing, and these are counted as training hours.

This year, so far I only went for 1 course - effective report writing, and that was a global thing that all div 1s had to go for.... and I'm doing this 5 years into the job.

The only courses they're willing to send staff for are those grass cutting courses, 'fundamentals of grass science', 'fundamentals of irrigation', etc. They are deliberately trying to avoid sending staff for management courses because they don't see the value in giving these skills to people who are involved in grasscutting operation.

So how do I market myself when I don't have skills to market?

[undiscern]

Originally Posted by miwashi

the thing is, I'm in a dead end job supervising grasscutting.
There are virtually no soft skills to be had.
Last year, for example, I attended no courses at all! I attended the organization's talks where they blow trumpets about the latest study trip they went for, or the latest event they organized, that sort of thing, and these are counted as training hours.

This year, so far I only went for 1 course - effective report writing, and that was a global thing that all div 1s had to go for.... and I'm doing this 5 years into the job.

The only courses they're willing to send staff for are those grass cutting courses, 'fundamentals of grass science', 'fundamentals of irrigation', etc. They are deliberately trying to avoid sending staff for management courses because they don't see the value in giving these skills to people who are involved in grasscutting operation.

So how do I market myself when I don't have skills to market?

Can consider doing a phd in this area. you will be the expert in singapore. in fact it is indeed a science:
Grass and Forage Science - Journal Information

Make the best out of it.

Originally Posted by miwashi

the thing is, I'm in a dead end job supervising grasscutting.
There are virtually no soft skills to be had.
Last year, for example, I attended no courses at all! I attended the organization's talks where they blow trumpets about the latest study trip they went for, or the latest event they organized, that sort of thing, and these are counted as training hours.

This year, so far I only went for 1 course - effective report writing, and that was a global thing that all div 1s had to go for.... and I'm doing this 5 years into the job.

The only courses they're willing to send staff for are those grass cutting courses, 'fundamentals of grass science', 'fundamentals of irrigation', etc. They are deliberately trying to avoid sending staff for management courses because they don't see the value in giving these skills to people who are involved in grasscutting operation.

So how do I market myself when I don't have skills to market?

go start a landscaping or grasscutting company. hire FW to do the work. as singapore is super pro-business, you'll be a millionaire in no time. don't work for crappy pay and be so miserable.