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Old 14-10-2021, 12:42 AM
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In mnc, you don't have a 'track'. That is for GLC. Because businesses and changes are volatile in MNC. Your KPI last year changes with the global environment. Those who keep up to it gets ahead and there must be opportunities usually vacated by leaving or retiring staffs. Even mgmt trainees get asked to go before they reach their so called promised positions during difficult times or restructuring because there is simply no track. The 'gap' is dependent on value adding and opportunities available not your paper qualifications.

So I'm very sure. You don't work for MNCs.
And Iím very sure you have not been part of management programs in top companies, a lot of my peers are senior managers and directors 7-8 years in, 99% of diploma graduates will not get there.

Again I am not saying degree is all that counts if you read my post again, but it is the entry bar and usually a good tell (most non degree holders are less capable)

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And Iím very sure you have not been part of management programs in top companies, a lot of my peers are senior managers and directors 7-8 years in, 99% of diploma graduates will not get there.

Again I am not saying degree is all that counts if you read my post again, but it is the entry bar and usually a good tell (most non degree holders are less capable)
I'm not the poster you replied to. But I want to point out to you that in an MNC, nobody goes around asking your educational level, management or not. Even HR don't keep track on that. Because it is plain stupid to do that. In Germany and USA, you get a mixture of different education background on leadership positions. But one thing that's sure is that they either have connections, a lot of experience or previous successful track records. You need to have systemic promotions based on paper qualifications in order to be 99% sure no particular paper qualification makes it to that level. And the closest one doing that is a GLC or our local stat board.

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So end up is that person who resigned from a Dutch MNC just because a dip holder got promoted over him,a deg holder, plus complained mommy doesn't want to finance his/her daily expenses, got a job? lol.

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In mnc, you don't have a 'track'. That is for GLC. Because businesses and changes are volatile in MNC. Your KPI last year changes with the global environment. Those who keep up to it gets ahead and there must be opportunities usually vacated by leaving or retiring staffs. Even mgmt trainees get asked to go before they reach their so called promised positions during difficult times or restructuring because there is simply no track. The 'gap' is dependent on value adding and opportunities available not your paper qualifications.

So I'm very sure. You don't work for MNCs.
Yo dude
Don't take this forum seriously. I think u never work in glc some glc people treat mnc as premier league but cannot join so they come to this forum to pretend but the way they type and their thinking always betray them wan...
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So end up is that person who resigned from a Dutch MNC just because a dip holder got promoted over him,a deg holder, plus complained mommy doesn't want to finance his/her daily expenses, got a job? lol.
I think he too malu runaway liao
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Old 14-10-2021, 09:53 AM
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Trust me, i am from mnc. dip holder cannot take pmp and six sigma red belt. i am now a six sigma already and i am going for my seven sigma course how will i not know? pmp is the project manager certificate also need deg holder. During ranking exercise, we always rank the deg holder higher than the dip holder because deg is higher than dip. Their rank will always stuck there irregardless their performance how good otherwise why all the government sector and government COY structure all the deg holder to take up management rank?
Wahaha! Dua kang until like that! No 7 sigma lah wahaha! Want to pretend from mnc also lobang broken.
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Old 14-10-2021, 10:13 AM
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Trust me, i am from mnc. dip holder cannot take pmp and six sigma red belt. i am now a six sigma already and i am going for my seven sigma course how will i not know? pmp is the project manager certificate also need deg holder. During ranking exercise, we always rank the deg holder higher than the dip holder because deg is higher than dip. Their rank will always stuck there irregardless their performance how good otherwise why all the government sector and government COY structure all the deg holder to take up management rank?
trust me also, I am going for eight sigma, they need PhD qualification so I am trying to study well then I can win those in seven sigma


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And Iím very sure you have not been part of management programs in top companies, a lot of my peers are senior managers and directors 7-8 years in, 99% of diploma graduates will not get there.

Again I am not saying degree is all that counts if you read my post again, but it is the entry bar and usually a good tell (most non degree holders are less capable)
This is true, diploma holders are usually terrible.

These days having a pulse is all you need to get a degree. No excuse for not having one.
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trust me also, I am going for eight sigma, they need PhD qualification so I am trying to study well then I can win those in seven sigma
I got degree can win even 100 sigma rainbow belt automatic become manager. Career path is become director. Only diploma report to me i won't report to diploma. I will resign if company want me to report to diploma.
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I got degree can win even 100 sigma rainbow belt automatic become manager. Career path is become director. Only diploma report to me i won't report to diploma. I will resign if company want me to report to diploma.
I don't have six seven eight sigma but I have six Omega watches can or not?
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