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fool886 11-02-2021 05:52 PM

Capgemini tester trainee
 
Anyone heard/ know about this role ?

Also how’s the working culture in capgemini?

Dress code ? Working hours?

Thks in advance

Unregistered 11-02-2021 10:29 PM

Many ceca the company..

Unregistered 12-02-2021 01:07 AM

dont worry la he wont get in

fool886 12-02-2021 11:37 AM

No one heard of this company??

Unregistered 12-02-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156162)
No one heard of this company??

If possible, avoid IT consultancy companies.

fool886 12-02-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156167)
If possible, avoid IT consultancy companies.

How come? So jialat one???

Unregistered 12-02-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156169)
How come? So jialat one???

If you are part of the dev team like software engineer or software tester etc. you will be attached to the client company as "vendor". It is like being an orphan living in someone else house. Given lesser food and can only continue doing household chores when the family go out for an outing. Basically treated as 2nd class citizen and get lesser pay. When the whole department goes to a company event, you won't be invited. Whole office empty except your desk.

fool886 12-02-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156171)
If you are part of the dev team like software engineer or software tester etc. you will be attached to the client company as "vendor". It is like being an orphan living in someone else house. Given lesser food and can only continue doing household chores when the family go out for an outing. Basically treated as 2nd class citizen and get lesser pay. When the whole department goes to a company event, you won't be invited. Whole office empty except your desk.

attached to client company... means report to the client place everyday??
Sounds like so recruitment agency kind...
How is the expected pay like for fresher? If do tester... is it very technical? Or use enterprise software kind

Unregistered 13-02-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156171)
If you are part of the dev team like software engineer or software tester etc. you will be attached to the client company as "vendor". It is like being an orphan living in someone else house. Given lesser food and can only continue doing household chores when the family go out for an outing. Basically treated as 2nd class citizen and get lesser pay. When the whole department goes to a company event, you won't be invited. Whole office empty except your desk.

This is true.

Im a systems admin for a tech consultancy. After a year of onboarding and training in hq, I was attached to a big tech firm without all the perks given to an in-house employee.

My gross salary is definitely higher than the in-house guys lah but the pains of small stuff like not being entitled for bonus, lesser PTOs, no stock options will definitely accrue up in the long run. Especially when ure doing the exact same job.

fool886 13-02-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156197)
This is true.

Im a systems admin for a tech consultancy. After a year of onboarding and training in hq, I was attached to a big tech firm without all the perks given to an in-house employee.

My gross salary is definitely higher than the in-house guys lah but the pains of small stuff like not being entitled for bonus, lesser PTOs, no stock options will definitely accrue up in the long run. Especially when ure doing the exact same job.

So is like u employed by Capgemini, but working inside another company?
That’s no good...

Leung chiu wai 13-02-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156201)
So is like u employed by Capgemini, but working inside another company?
That’s no good...

If they send you to Googer then is very good, can put that on your CV instead of crapgemini

fool886 13-02-2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leung chiu wai (Post 156202)
If they send you to Googer then is very good, can put that on your CV instead of crapgemini


Why will google get outsourced testers in the first place... they have their own in house engineers...

Unregistered 13-02-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156204)
Why will google get outsourced testers in the first place... they have their own in house engineers...

Google/Facebook have tons of vendors and contractors for their contingent workforce. It’s quite common to see firms like PRO Unlimited / Cognizant / Capgemini / Infosys guys in these tech firms.

Pay is good. Training is well structured. Overall a very good opportunity for people fresh out of uni with no concrete tech experience. Only downside is like a couple of posts have highlighted earlier, you won’t be entitled to a lot of benefits given to in-house employees since you’re a contractor/vendor.

fool886 13-02-2021 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156206)
Google/Facebook have tons of vendors and contractors for their contingent workforce. It’s quite common to see firms like PRO Unlimited / Cognizant / Capgemini / Infosys guys in these tech firms.

Pay is good. Training is well structured. Overall a very good opportunity for people fresh out of uni with no concrete tech experience. Only downside is like a couple of posts have highlighted earlier, you won’t be entitled to a lot of benefits given to in-house employees since you’re a contractor/vendor.


From what I heard from friend, most likely will be deployed to one of the local banks. Is is a good place to start? Pay I heard is high 3k... but no AWS/ bonus

Unregistered 13-02-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156204)
Why will google get outsourced testers in the first place... they have their own in house engineers...

One word... Cheaper

Unregistered 13-02-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156207)
From what I heard from friend, most likely will be deployed to one of the local banks. Is is a good place to start? Pay I heard is high 3k... but no AWS/ bonus

DBS very easy to join through their seed program one. Base starting pay is 5k.

fool886 13-02-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156213)
DBS very easy to join through their seed program one. Base starting pay is 5k.


SEED is do software engineering one???

Unregistered 13-02-2021 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fool886 (Post 156214)
SEED is do software engineering one???

Yeah, but hearsay can also be assigned to do testing. See luck one.

Unregistered 14-02-2021 08:46 AM

try harder again next time

Unregistered 15-02-2021 01:07 AM

Low ses outsourced staff. Probably flooded with UOL/ RMIT ppl
The pay for 3k or not?

Unregistered 15-02-2021 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156258)
Low ses outsourced staff. Probably flooded with UOL/ RMIT ppl
The pay for 3k or not?

at least 5k for this job

scrooge mcduck 15-02-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156271)
at least 5k for this job

5k your head lah. Around mid 3s at best.

Unregistered 15-02-2021 03:45 PM

Most likely u will be Outsourced and deployed somewhere.
Really is heng suay one, depend on ur client heavily

Unregistered 24-02-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 156292)
Most likely u will be Outsourced and deployed somewhere.
Really is heng suay one, depend on ur client heavily

If deploy to UOB is good or bad? ):

Unregistered 25-02-2021 04:14 PM

Avoid at all cost. Software vendors like capgemini, nityo, luxoft, optimum solutions- avoid at all cost. Slightly higher starting salary, no bonus, work with CECA, just flip prata everyday.

Unregistered 25-02-2021 04:45 PM

Very true. I would gladly take a 10-20% lower salary to not have to work in the same team as Cecas. Scum of the workplace.

Unregistered 25-02-2021 07:40 PM

Can’t say for other vendor solutions companies out there but the ones I know are filled with people from a particular nationality. Look into your contract, most of the time they will require you to be bonded, have 3 months notice period, you will be required to pay for the trainings your received during your bond/ training period should you break your bond. After your training period, you will be assigned to a client. If your client works your team to the bones, then good luck to you. Your team will be led by someone from your company. Some of these companies couldn’t assign you to another client once your project is completed or if you decide to leave the project. Some people I know had to leave once they are on bench for 6 months.

Unregistered 26-02-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 157110)
Can’t say for other vendor solutions companies out there but the ones I know are filled with people from a particular nationality. Look into your contract, most of the time they will require you to be bonded, have 3 months notice period, you will be required to pay for the trainings your received during your bond/ training period should you break your bond. After your training period, you will be assigned to a client. If your client works your team to the bones, then good luck to you. Your team will be led by someone from your company. Some of these companies couldn’t assign you to another client once your project is completed or if you decide to leave the project. Some people I know had to leave once they are on bench for 6 months.

Wow! How long is typically the training period???

Sounds like horrible terms, if pay back training fee how much will it be typically?

Unregistered 27-02-2021 07:24 PM

YMMV. One vendor colleague I worked with who was a fresh grad a few years back, had to be bonded for 2 years. 3 months pay if that colleague broke the bond. Not sure how the trainings were conducted. Some of them were UAT testers, others were for MX BO, MX implementation, MX upgrade, others did control M stuff. I knew a few of them a few years back. I think some stayed on and left after completing their bond, some others broke the bond and paid the penalty. It really depends if you really enjoy the work of a ‘consultant’. That’s how these companies brand themselves. If you are really in need of a job, sure go ahead and see how it’s like. If not, avoid.

Unregistered 27-02-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 157285)
YMMV. One vendor colleague I worked with who was a fresh grad a few years back, had to be bonded for 2 years. 3 months pay if that colleague broke the bond. Not sure how the trainings were conducted. Some of them were UAT testers, others were for MX BO, MX implementation, MX upgrade, others did control M stuff. I knew a few of them a few years back. I think some stayed on and left after completing their bond, some others broke the bond and paid the penalty. It really depends if you really enjoy the work of a ‘consultant’. That’s how these companies brand themselves. If you are really in need of a job, sure go ahead and see how it’s like. If not, avoid.

All these “consultants” are just cheap SWE labours.
No real value.
Wtf 3 mth bond is crazy.

Unregistered 28-02-2021 04:26 PM

Dead end job.
Unless you’re desperate and from private Uni, avoid at all cost

Unregistered 02-03-2021 07:31 PM

How the work life balance under capgemini??
Long hours Or?

Unregistered 03-03-2021 11:52 PM

If you are employed as a ‘consultant’, then it depends on your client, then it depends on the projects you work on. Same client, different projects will have different expectations.

Unregistered 12-04-2021 12:51 AM

Is this job good?

Unregistered 12-04-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 165112)
Is this job good?

Best job ever. Good career progression. Can be test lead. Can be test manager. Can actually crossover to toptier tech firms to plan test strategy there too. I have 15 years of experience in this field, though my testing days are long over, i am in charge of planning large scale test strategies now.

Drawing 35k per month at an undisclosed firm.

Unregistered 12-04-2021 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 165199)
Best job ever. Good career progression. Can be test lead. Can be test manager. Can actually crossover to toptier tech firms to plan test strategy there too. I have 15 years of experience in this field, though my testing days are long over, i am in charge of planning large scale test strategies now.

Drawing 35k per month at an undisclosed firm.

Lol.. i cant trust you. Accenture is still better than capgemini. Although both are sucks.

Unregistered 12-04-2021 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 165224)
Lol.. i cant trust you. Accenture is still better than capgemini. Although both are sucks.

Why suddenly bring Accenture in?

Unregistered 10-06-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 157323)
Dead end job.
Unless you’re desperate and from private Uni, avoid at all cost

I am from pte U. Should I try for this role?

Unregistered 12-06-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 173370)
I am from pte U. Should I try for this role?

no harm trying if no other option


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