How much to ask for starting pay for those graduating in 2021?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I would ask for 4k minimum, anything less is weak tbh

For talented local fresh grad, I think you are too modest. Let's aim for a minimum of 5K. No 5K no talk

Originally Posted by Unregistered

"I got my money already so f*ck the younger generation amirite?"

Every man for himself. I only care about myself and my own offsprings. Who cares what happens to others? Remember, no one owes you a living. If you cannot make it, you should reflect on why you have failed.

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Seems like people are really stretching the baton here with either a “accept whatever offer you get” attitude or “actually you should ask for much much more” mindset.

Reality is most MNCs are still paying $3.5k to $4.5k for fresh grads, Finance would generally be higher ($4.5k+ for BO, $5k+ for FO/MO and of course the huge salaries and bonuses for IB/S&T). Don’t know about SMEs, though I'd wager $3k to $4k is normal in good times, perhaps apply a discount given the COVID period.

Point is, I doubt that there will be a considerable reduction in graduate salaries even during the COVID times. Reduced headcount certainly, but wages are still very sticky on the whole.

Originally Posted by gutenberg03129g

Seems like people are really stretching the baton here with either a “accept whatever offer you get” attitude or “actually you should ask for much much more” mindset.

Reality is most MNCs are still paying $3.5k to $4.5k for fresh grads, Finance would generally be higher ($4.5k+ for BO, $5k+ for FO/MO and of course the huge salaries and bonuses for IB/S&T). Don’t know about SMEs, though I'd wager $3k to $4k is normal in good times, perhaps apply a discount given the COVID period.

Point is, I doubt that there will be a considerable reduction in graduate salaries even during the COVID times. Reduced headcount certainly, but wages are still very sticky on the whole.

Certain employers think that COVID-19 is a global nuke, we are all cavemen now, and we should all be hungry for the payment of 2 cows a month.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does it really matter if he has this view? That view is just a passive observation of how the world is unfolding and that it fortuitously happens to benefit his life. No need to be bitter. And he's not saying "f*ck you" either".

This is just my passive summary, no need for a wall of text for something which can be said in 1 sentence.

How much to expect for UOL grad

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is just my passive summary, no need for a wall of text for something which can be said in 1 sentence.

Lol you say "wall of text" but I think this guy summed up your bitterness pretty concisely

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Certain employers think that COVID-19 is a global nuke, we are all cavemen now, and we should all be hungry for the payment of 2 cows a month.

A whole live cow costs a few thousand dollars

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How much to expect for UOL grad

Most SMEs give 2.2k-2.7k now, while most are addressing headcount issues.

If you can join MNCs, wages are also suppressed now, within 3k-3.4k.

It's not easy I know, companies are also cutting AWS and variable bonuses. Having a job in this climate is already very fortunate.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most SMEs give 2.2k-2.7k now, while most are addressing headcount issues.

If you can join MNCs, wages are also suppressed now, within 3k-3.4k.

It's not easy I know, companies are also cutting AWS and variable bonuses. Having a job in this climate is already very fortunate.

U sure know your stuff. Yup 2.5k is alrdy very good for starting pay, fully concur.