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Old 19-03-2022, 07:32 PM
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recently went for a interview the HR still ask for last drawn and say offer will be 10-15% more.

over the last 2-3 years i attained more than 5-6 include professional certification like CISSP CISM, how to use that to my benefit to ask for more than salary instead of base of my last drawn
By telling them you have offers already and be prepared to walk away

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Old 19-03-2022, 11:55 PM
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The company is angmo company and is startup, the HR is still local sinkie...
I am sure the HR dun know the value of those certification and just copy n paste all the preferred cert onto the JD itself
You are doing risk right? Actually is quite common that risk ppl to have cissp with isaca cism, crisc and cisa plus some vendor cloud cert.

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Old 20-03-2022, 02:06 AM
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You are doing risk right? Actually is quite common that risk ppl to have cissp with isaca cism, crisc and cisa plus some vendor cloud cert.
not really specific to risk only, I can do programming, scripting, architect, virtualization, cloud security.

nowadays with 1 skillset will not survive



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Old 20-03-2022, 08:28 AM
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the company has no reason to change their hr policy for you. if you think they are not compensating you fairly then tell them bye bye
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Old 20-03-2022, 11:11 AM
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the company has no reason to change their hr policy for you. if you think they are not compensating you fairly then tell them bye bye
yea guess i wont try to argue with them, I have more compelling offer coming.
bigger tech coy didnt even ask for my last drawn only ask for my credential and proof of employment.
guess the startup mindset still kicks in
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Old 20-03-2022, 11:27 PM
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if you are talking about increment, i think the issue is with the company which you are interviewing then than your cert. it might be that company culture is already very established and mature which they alway hire everyone with 10-15% increment or maybe the department which you are interviewing, everyone have cissp, cism and more, so you are not special which is why they nv intended to offer more.

if you want more then should try those startup or ang mo company
What special of CISSP & CISM?

I saw a lot manager have but don’t have technical skill at all.
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Old 21-03-2022, 08:19 AM
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Difficult EXAM but it common now especially during covid where a lot of ppl wfh and have spare time to study.

Cism and cissp is actually common in a lot of senior or risk department.
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Old 21-03-2022, 01:21 PM
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What special of CISSP & CISM?

I saw a lot manager have but don’t have technical skill at all.
Technical skill will not get you far in career.
I am looking for lesser hands-on dirty work to progress.
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Old 21-03-2022, 01:29 PM
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Technical skill will not get you far in career.
I am looking for lesser hands-on dirty work to progress.
Everybody wanna be manager but nobody wanna do technical work lmao

Please guys, continue to be your PM don’t turn back!
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Old 21-03-2022, 01:31 PM
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Everybody wanna be manager but nobody wanna do technical work lmao

Please guys, continue to be your PM don’t turn back!
Technical work for fresh grad, newbie to do lah
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