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Unregistered 24-04-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166378)
Fresh grad here... accepted an offer from a Big 4 firm to do cyber consulting but received an offer today as a SOC security analyst from a cybersecurity company. Exit opportunities in the big 4 are good but will my exit opportunities be equally great if I took on the SOC security analyst role?

Background context:
had 2 years of SOC experience in NS
have a degree in cybersec from local u

Really don't know what to do hence asking for advice haha. appreciate any advice given!

I will choose big4 .

As for soc analyst from cyber security company , my friend did feedback is like a guard job .
Stare at screen ,escalate , most of the time watch or play game ..

MNC internal soc team > Cybersec company soc team

Unregistered 24-04-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166381)
Which path do you want to specialize in? Or what is your aspiration / long term goal? I’m sure the compensation as a SOC analyst is higher.

The SOC role offered is from a cybersec firm and I’ll be outsourced to one of the government ministries to do monitoring/incident response (not ensign haha). Ideally my career plan is to head to an ops/technical role at the start of my career before heading to governance/risk/strategy role at the later stages. Am leaning towards the SOC role cos I’ve heard horror stories about the Big 4 culture. Not sure if it’s the right path. And yup the SOC role pays better but pay isn’t really an issue for me now hahaha more towards progression

Unregistered 24-04-2021 10:19 PM

I received an offer to join cybersecurity vendor in their R&D department. Is it a good place to kickstart my cybersecurity career?

Unregistered 25-04-2021 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166432)
The SOC role offered is from a cybersec firm and I’ll be outsourced to one of the government ministries to do monitoring/incident response (not ensign haha). Ideally my career plan is to head to an ops/technical role at the start of my career before heading to governance/risk/strategy role at the later stages. Am leaning towards the SOC role cos I’ve heard horror stories about the Big 4 culture. Not sure if it’s the right path. And yup the SOC role pays better but pay isn’t really an issue for me now hahaha more towards progression

better don’t take outsource . You will regret !

Unregistered 25-04-2021 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166480)
I received an offer to join cybersecurity vendor in their R&D department. Is it a good place to kickstart my cybersecurity career?

Like so chim ..

Unregistered 25-04-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166378)
Fresh grad here... accepted an offer from a Big 4 firm to do cyber consulting but received an offer today as a SOC security analyst from a cybersecurity company. Exit opportunities in the big 4 are good but will my exit opportunities be equally great if I took on the SOC security analyst role?

Background context:
had 2 years of SOC experience in NS
have a degree in cybersec from local u

Really don't know what to do hence asking for advice haha. appreciate any advice given!

exit option not look at firm or branding lei.

If you are from a rubbish firm but have alot of certification such as CCT, you think no people will hire you?

Unregistered 25-04-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166504)
exit option not look at firm or branding lei.

If you are from a rubbish firm but have alot of certification such as CCT, you think no people will hire you?

Rubbish firm have cert is not ideal. Why not have both

Unregistered 25-04-2021 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166547)
Rubbish firm have cert is not ideal. Why not have both

bro, he say exit option lei.

anyway, the firm can be good but team rubbish, you also wun stay.

most important i think is self development, as long as you got the skill, i dun think you need to care about exit option

Unregistered 26-04-2021 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166432)
The SOC role offered is from a cybersec firm and I’ll be outsourced to one of the government ministries to do monitoring/incident response (not ensign haha). Ideally my career plan is to head to an ops/technical role at the start of my career before heading to governance/risk/strategy role at the later stages. Am leaning towards the SOC role cos I’ve heard horror stories about the Big 4 culture. Not sure if it’s the right path. And yup the SOC role pays better but pay isn’t really an issue for me now hahaha more towards progression

Consulting will always have better exit options. SOC doesn't make you stand out nor give you the breadth of experience that consulting does.

Unregistered 26-04-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166594)
Consulting will always have better exit options. SOC doesn't make you stand out nor give you the breadth of experience that consulting does.

Agree .

I work in SOC before and i can said big 4 have better exit options .

Unregistered 27-04-2021 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166611)
Agree .

I work in SOC before and i can said big 4 have better exit options .

What about R&D? Is it a good place to kickstart a career in cybersecurity?

Unregistered 27-04-2021 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166709)
What about R&D? Is it a good place to kickstart a career in cybersecurity?

Data scientist ?

I feel consultant better .

can know more customer and have opportunities .

Unregistered 27-04-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166719)
Data scientist ?

I feel consultant better .

can know more customer and have opportunities .

R&D Engineer! I've tried Security Consulting before at N** though.. Don't really enjoy the nature of the work. xD

Unregistered 28-04-2021 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 166729)
R&D Engineer! I've tried Security Consulting before at N** though.. Don't really enjoy the nature of the work. xD


N T T is hell place ...

Unregistered 01-05-2021 11:29 PM

Been reading posts from other threads saying how Big 4 isn't as prestigious as it used to be/not the best place to be at for fresh grads etc.....

How true is this in the cybersecurity space? is it the best place to be at to start a career in cybersecurity?

Unregistered 02-05-2021 10:41 AM

i think it is eziler to get in to big4 freshgrad as some of the hiring manager hire base on your attitude.

Some of the other consulting firm will be harder to get in as they expect you to already have some basic hand on cert or you can break some of the VM boxes which they prepare for you during the tech test

Unregistered 02-05-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167306)
Been reading posts from other threads saying how Big 4 isn't as prestigious as it used to be/not the best place to be at for fresh grads etc.....

How true is this in the cybersecurity space? is it the best place to be at to start a career in cybersecurity?

easier to get in but do note that stuff which require certifications, you would not be able to do.

Unregistered 02-05-2021 09:29 PM

that why a lot of people in big 4 got no cert. do nothing get high pay

Unregistered 04-05-2021 03:16 PM

5 years in the industry and currently doing Security Operations as a threat analyst. I’m thinking of jumping into security governance, compliance and risk line. Would that be too big of a jump? Have CISSP and taking CRISC next.

Unregistered 06-05-2021 12:55 PM

How much can a fresh grad with OSCP (working towards crest) and CTF experience expect to make in a consultancy? Looking at different roles like pen testing & threat hunting.

Unregistered 06-05-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167814)
How much can a fresh grad with OSCP (working towards crest) and CTF experience expect to make in a consultancy? Looking at different roles like pen testing & threat hunting.

same same as other fresh grad, at most eziler to get a job.

WHY?

everyone also have OSCP.....

Unregistered 06-05-2021 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167814)
How much can a fresh grad with OSCP (working towards crest) and CTF experience expect to make in a consultancy? Looking at different roles like pen testing & threat hunting.


experience still matters. probably just a bit higher than a fresh grad with no experience and cert but definitely not higher than someone with experience and no cert

Unregistered 06-05-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167814)
How much can a fresh grad with OSCP (working towards crest) and CTF experience expect to make in a consultancy? Looking at different roles like pen testing & threat hunting.

$3200 . Less than blue team

Unregistered 06-05-2021 11:12 PM

if got crest, then try orange. you can get 5

Unregistered 08-05-2021 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167892)
if got crest, then try orange. you can get 5

Fresh grad can’t get 5 even CREST .

2.5 - 3.5k Max

Unregistered 08-05-2021 11:37 AM

How much does a pentest/red team lead with 10 years of experience earn?

Unregistered 08-05-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168022)
Fresh grad can’t get 5 even CREST .

2.5 - 3.5k Max

you sure?

4k basic and 1k crest bonus.

Unregistered 08-05-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168053)
How much does a pentest/red team lead with 10 years of experience earn?

it depend whether you are talking about people like sunny neo or those self proclaim red team lead with only OSCP?

Unregistered 08-05-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 167548)
5 years in the industry and currently doing Security Operations as a threat analyst. I’m thinking of jumping into security governance, compliance and risk line. Would that be too big of a jump? Have CISSP and taking CRISC next.

You will be clueless and need guidance for 2 years.

Unregistered 08-05-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168057)
it depend whether you are talking about people like sunny neo or those self proclaim red team lead with only OSCP?

I mean private sector. Not government agencies like CSA

Unregistered 08-05-2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168064)
I mean private sector. Not government agencies like CSA


If you have the cert, should be 5 digit.

Unregistered 08-05-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168053)
How much does a pentest/red team lead with 10 years of experience earn?

10yr experience with CEH vs 5yr experience with CCSAS, the pay different will be very big. that why cert is important.

Unregistered 12-05-2021 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168057)
it depend whether you are talking about people like sunny neo or those self proclaim red team lead with only OSCP?

lol who is sunny ? You seem to have a problem with him.

Unregistered 25-07-2021 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 168057)
it depend whether you are talking about people like sunny neo or those self proclaim red team lead with only OSCP?

Then what certs do red team leads need to have?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178401)
Then what certs do red team leads need to have?

if there is a need to ask this question then the person is probably not a good fit to be a red team lead.

Unregistered 25-07-2021 01:20 PM

Any splunk engineers/admin here? I have a job offer which will be mostly working on Splunk. Wondering if it's a good opportunity or is it too niche?

Unregistered 25-07-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178401)
Then what certs do red team leads need to have?

crto, crte, paces, crtp, eCPTXv2, osep

Unregistered 25-07-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178430)
Any splunk engineers/admin here? I have a job offer which will be mostly working on Splunk. Wondering if it's a good opportunity or is it too niche?

what does this have to do with cyber security?

Unregistered 26-07-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178459)
what does this have to do with cyber security?

Many companies use splunk as a LMS/SIEM

Unregistered 27-07-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 178459)
what does this have to do with cyber security?

Splunk is cyber security analysis tool.


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