Salary as a TSO in Poly

Originally Posted by Unregistered

May I know if I am a degree holder with 5 years industry experiences, how much is the highest salary I can expect?

What are the career advancement opportunities and the benefits?

Please if you have a degree , don't ever take up the offer as a TSO because you will always be bullied by the management to take up roles that lecturers refused to do.

just to share my experience for working in one of the top 2 polytechnic in Singapore

1) Lecturer as supervisor of the Final year project will ask his/her students to approach you for assistance. Most of the lecturers especially those on Pax3 above will try to shut responsibilities

2) TSOs has to go for training to use machine whereas lecturers are not required to learn because they are academic staff

3) Their PB will usually range from 1.5 -4 month depend of PB grading whereas the TSOs will get 0.5 to 1.5

4) During the flag day , lecturers will just take attendance and TSOs will carry the tin and heavy load. My colleague who is in his 50s , has to carry heavy load for a young lecturers in his 30s

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Please if you have a degree , don't ever take up the offer as a TSO because you will always be bullied by the management to take up roles that lecturers refused to do.

just to share my experience for working in one of the top 2 polytechnic in Singapore

1) Lecturer as supervisor of the Final year project will ask his/her students to approach you for assistance. Most of the lecturers especially those on Pax3 above will try to shut responsibilities

2) TSOs has to go for training to use machine whereas lecturers are not required to learn because they are academic staff

3) Their PB will usually range from 1.5 -4 month depend of PB grading whereas the TSOs will get 0.5 to 1.5

4) During the flag day , lecturers will just take attendance and TSOs will carry the tin and heavy load. My colleague who is in his 50s , has to carry heavy load for a young lecturers in his 30s

Heard of it too. take care

[Smart888]

Why is so unfair to TSO ???

Lecturer got 2 months bonus but TSO got 1 month with both the same grade.

It should be across the board.

TSO are menial work ?

U guys heard any lecturer got 'D' , its seem only TSO got 'D'.

Its like NCO and CO mah....

A 19year old LT can fug a 45year old 2wo. Seee, results makes a difference!

Originally Posted by Smart888

Why is so unfair to TSO ???

Lecturer got 2 months bonus but TSO got 1 month with both the same grade.

It should be across the board.

TSO are menial work ?

U guys heard any lecturer got 'D' , its seem only TSO got 'D'.

yes and TSO only diploma so has to do low level work ...........

heard from my cousin who is working in Singapore Poly that there are a few TSOs getting 'D' grade but never heard about the lecturer getting D

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yes and TSO only diploma so has to do low level work ...........

heard from my cousin who is working in Singapore Poly that there are a few TSOs getting 'D' grade but never heard about the lecturer getting D

TSOs in the polytechnic are of the Lower level.
Lecturers are the core staff ...

TSOs have to take on more scopes of work .
Better warn your child/friends/relatives if they want to work in the tertiary institution

TSO, like in many educational institutions here, are placed under the Administrative, and not Academic group.

That means they are also roped in for all kinds of admin duties, especially during endless events year-round like open house, sec school visits, graduation, VIP visit, etc. All this beyond their technical specialty or main job scope of running a lab or workshop.

Even when they do their lab or workshop duty well, giving good support to the Academic / lecturers group, the grateful or appreciative acad staff can't do much to recommend or credit them, because the TSOs are all under a different group!! (admin - that includes the usual office general admin, buyers, etc.)

As in any PS or CS job, I don't recommend young people going for this... your skills stagnate and eventually you'll be stuck there. The job is actually quite 'iron rice bowl' - despite the contract - and that's actually the problem!

Bo pian lorr... Fact of life.

In academic or research environment... paper qualifications rule. And among those with the same paper qualifications, perhaps their achievements or reputation will then determine the pecking order.

In poly, the lecturers are either bachelor or many are masters degree holders. Anything less than that, such as the TSO diploma qualification, will automatically relegate to lower rung.

The masters degree holder also will have to eat humble pie in a university or research centre, because the top dogs are the PhDs... the degree holders can only do the admin and support jobs... ha ha ha.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bo pian lorr... Fact of life.

In academic or research environment... paper qualifications rule. And among those with the same paper qualifications, perhaps their achievements or reputation will then determine the pecking order.

In poly, the lecturers are either bachelor or many are masters degree holders. Anything less than that, such as the TSO diploma qualification, will automatically relegate to lower rung.

The masters degree holder also will have to eat humble pie in a university or research centre, because the top dogs are the PhDs... the degree holders can only do the admin and support jobs... ha ha ha.

The strange things on earth is that these TSOs are rank together with the
Lecturer holding the PAX5-6 during the appraisal .

Diploma holder and degree/PhDs lecturer are under different scheme/salary but put together
In the same basket . One is teaching and another is support

[Smart888]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The strange things on earth is that these TSOs are rank together with the
Lecturer holding the PAX5-6 during the appraisal .

Diploma holder and degree/PhDs lecturer are under different scheme/salary but put together
In the same basket . One is teaching and another is support

TSO rank with Lecturer ?
Totally unfair, officer compare with sergeant, the officer already a mile ahead before the race start, the sergeant has to sprint all the way rather than running.

Brainless management system, those salary fall in the range of $4K really suffer, how can they be compared with someone getting 6 to 7k !!!!