Project Manager
I'm interested in studying this course, Project and Facilities Management in NUS after I graduate from JC. May i know the payscale for a project manager related to building and construction industry and how long before one can undertake that position?
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Construction industry in Singapore typically employs Civil Engineers with experience in construction to manage civil or building construction projects. Degree in Project and Facilities Management would be a plus but not a prerequisite and if given a choice between someone with a degree in Civil Engineer and Project Management, my guess is construction firms would pick Civil Engineers to run the project for them. Reason is simple. Civil Engineers possess technical knowledge and can be trained in management. Graduates in Project Management however have the management know-how but lack the technical knowledge which can't be taught as easily.
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Thank you a lot for your info, i hope more people can give me advice. Recently i have also been thinking about this issue that this course is too general. Once, a friend told me that it would be better to pursue a course that is more specific, eg instead of Business Studies, one should pursue individual zoom intos, eg Fund Management. Therefore, i have been reconsidering my choice about Project and Facilities management and have been thinking about Architecture/Civil Engineering instead. One question, is there are significant difference between civil engineering and architecture? Because, they are in different faculties: Architecture in built environment, civil engineering in engineering. Please enlighten me about the specific differences... Also, if i pursue architecture, will my future job revolve around the design of blueprints of buildings/decision of required materials only? Thank you.
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You'll hear of famous architects like IM Pei and Foster, but you'll never hear of famous individual civil engineers and FM managers. Architecture can be an art, while the others are just jobs. Take your pick. |
Appreciate ur help. Guess i would probably be considering Architecture. For now, i need to study hard for my A's as if i don't get grades, these courses are not even up to my discretion to pick. Haha.
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As for PM for main contractor, they will either wants a civil engineer which is registered with the engineer board but they will also look at a project management graduate too. It really depends on the main contractor. For PM, one can also be working for a developer, architecture firm or a consultancy firm. I bet to differ that most will choose a civil engineer to be a PM as to those who possess a project management degree. I myself is having a project management degree and now a PM for one of the listed developer in Singapore. I have a team of consultants (architects, civil engineers, M&E engineers, ID etc) helping and advising me on the project but on the other hand one also needs a fair amount of experience in order to make a better decision. None of my colleagues is a civil engineers hahahaha........ |
the course on pfm teaches mainly on managment for construction buildings right? So how is your job so far?(previous post) is it enjoyable for your?
I am not so sure if i have that huge an interest to learn about construction, but it sounds interesting to deal with different projects every time, so... is the construction industry very male dominated too? |
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your future job involved kissing up to people and trying to get ahead. whatever technical aptitute u need , u will probalbly be trained for OJT. architecture is better than civil engineering. better pay, harder to get in. civil engineering sux basically. lots of my civil e grad friends either foreman consturction site , or change job become financial advisor/planner (i.e fancy name for insurance agent). and no, these are people from NTU, not some rojak uni. |
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any fresh graduates from project & facilities management out there care to share your experience with us?
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as compared with the 3 options of FM, ARCH, and Civil, how are their pay scale like?
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Civil commands slightly lower starting pay as it is a shorter Bac/Hons course. 3-4yrs compared to 5 yrs arch. Increment for engineers are slower even though starting pay is pretty decent. Best to work on client end - PM and FM. which has better benefits and shorter work hours if you're considering built industry. |
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Given the small market in SG, unless you are in big firm, with outstanding credentials, the starting pay for both is very similar. In some cases, a B.Eng will probably pay more, such as if you work for public agencies or for banks. Engineers across most disciplines are very popular with banks. Early progression for Archts is also slow, until you get your practising cert. Back to the topic, in the built environment industry, you need to have at 5-8 experience to be a competent PM. PMs can be at contractor, consultant or client level. Contractor/consultant will require u to be technically trained, pay range from 5-10k depending on the project scale. For client side, can be either technical or others like, real estate, fac mgmt etc etc. Typically, pay progression may not be that great unless u have a large portfolio. |
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