Civil Service Performance Bonus

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Give you a piece of advice from someone with nearly 20 years of experience in civil service - it's usually not only based on your quality of work, but also how good you are at networking, particularly with people who form part of the ranking panel
Typically first year you wouldn't have built very strong relationships with others yet so see what you can do next year to create a lasting impression on others because they will then help to speak up for you

Yes... on top of that, you are competing with scholars who by default will receive higher-profile projects, etc. You should be happy you don't end up falling into C- each year (there is a quota for C- unless certain criteria are satisfied - e.g. officers resigning etc.).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Quite sure you are ignorant about public service ranking. The default C grade has been an issue among public officers for a long time.

U quite ignorant of yourself…get a job la

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Quite sure you are ignorant about public service ranking. The default C grade has been an issue among public officers for a long time.

Not the original poster, but can you elaborate? Genuinely curious because I also thought C is default, like “default C” not “default C+”?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Not the original poster, but can you elaborate? Genuinely curious because I also thought C is default, like “default C” not “default C+”?

For new officers, especially if you serve less than a year, the default is a C. This is to not pressure a new officer to perform as you might be getting used to the new role etc. However, if you are better, the dept has the discretion to justify a C+. This also means your RO/Head needs to write a lot of explanations to justify the C+. Not many ROs/Heads will go through the trouble.

The same applies if you are an experienced officer. It is always easier for ROs/Heads to NOT justify giving a grade above C.

In any case, sometimes it is better to get C+, C+ then a B or just be a consistent C+ officer to get your promotion later. Getting a B and a C+ in a subsequent year may make it difficult for your RO/ Head to justify your promotion (i.e. your performance has kind of declined cause you dropped from a B to C+).

My advice is to not look out for promotions. Promotions also mean you need to compete with experienced officers and more likely than not, your PB will decline subsequently. Someone calculated before that your annual package is better to be a lower-ranked officer with consistent C+ grades than a higher-ranked officer with consistent Cs. This is also the reason why some officers decline their promotions.

Essentially, if you are not a scholar or someone who can navigate the bureaucracies, but you want to climb the corporate ladder, just build up your skills in public service and move out to the private sector to develop your career further.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

C+ is average, means u r average compared to your peers

C+ is better than average. You ask your colleagues 1st yr is default C.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Default grade is C…dun rubbish leh

I realised that this poster's full stops are making the sentence to be subject to interpretations.

"Default grade is C...dun rubbish leh" might be interpreted as saying "Are you sure default grade is C? Dun rubbish leh".

I assume the poster meant this: "Default grade is C."

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I realised that this poster's full stops are making the sentence to be subject to interpretations.
"Default grade is C...dun rubbish leh" might be interpreted as saying "Are you sure default grade is C? Dun rubbish leh".
I assume the poster meant this: "Default grade is C."

Please don't assume.

Sometimes, the intent is to confuse.

What is the quantum for Mx12 C grade ? Has it changed from previous year?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For new officers, especially if you serve less than a year, the default is a C. This is to not pressure a new officer to perform as you might be getting used to the new role etc. However, if you are better, the dept has the discretion to justify a C+. This also means your RO/Head needs to write a lot of explanations to justify the C+. Not many ROs/Heads will go through the trouble.

The same applies if you are an experienced officer. It is always easier for ROs/Heads to NOT justify giving a grade above C.

In any case, sometimes it is better to get C+, C+ then a B or just be a consistent C+ officer to get your promotion later. Getting a B and a C+ in a subsequent year may make it difficult for your RO/ Head to justify your promotion (i.e. your performance has kind of declined cause you dropped from a B to C+).

My advice is to not look out for promotions. Promotions also mean you need to compete with experienced officers and more likely than not, your PB will decline subsequently. Someone calculated before that your annual package is better to be a lower-ranked officer with consistent C+ grades than a higher-ranked officer with consistent Cs. This is also the reason why some officers decline their promotions.

Essentially, if you are not a scholar or someone who can navigate the bureaucracies, but you want to climb the corporate ladder, just build up your skills in public service and move out to the private sector to develop your career further.

I see, thanks for the helpful reply.

The quantum for C+ for Mx11/11A seems to have been cut for last year and this year. Can anyone confirm the quantum for C for MX11/11A? If it is still 2 mths for C then the 2.35 mths for C plus is ridiculous and not worth the effort.