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Unregistered 18-03-2021 11:03 AM

What is Grade 4 for PB? In stat board.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159656)
i have alot of colleagues claim they 'did this project' 'lead this project' 'lead that project' etc for that promotion...

then once promoted... guess what...

they stopped 'leading' or 'doing the work' cause they know won't have another promotion after promotion... so they end up doing less.

why you never follow them ?

Unregistered 18-03-2021 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159666)
What is Grade 4 for PB? In stat board.

ask your peers lor, how we know what is your stat board like

Unregistered 18-03-2021 12:59 PM

Hi, do anyone know if there is PB for this year? If there is PB, when usually paid out?

Unregistered 18-03-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159656)
i have alot of colleagues claim they 'did this project' 'lead this project' 'lead that project' etc for that promotion...

then once promoted... guess what...

they stopped 'leading' or 'doing the work' cause they know won't have another promotion after promotion... so they end up doing less.

This is called working smart.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159678)
Hi, do anyone know if there is PB for this year? If there is PB, when usually paid out?

usually will be annouced officially through your company email

Unregistered 18-03-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158353)
This year you get another B or a C+, you should be promoted.
But depends on your CEP which on one knows except HR...

Can one still get promoted on a C+?

Unregistered 18-03-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159666)
What is Grade 4 for PB? In stat board.

Grade 4 is competence... usually is 1.25

Unregistered 18-03-2021 04:35 PM

minor cut thats all

Unregistered 18-03-2021 05:11 PM

Everyone complain about CS being hung up about bonuses. While the entire country is on lockdown, your CS go to work and have to work even harder cos so many entitled Singaporeans complaining and demanding CS work harder for them.

When times are good, people say CS slack = don't deserve bonus.
When times are bad, people say CS should stand in solidarity = don't deserve bonus.
Macam CS not common Singaporeans who also need to bring back food to the table. When times are good, CS work as per normal alike other Singaporeans. When times are bad, CS works even harder to ensure the country operates as per normal.. yet kena scolded. Really left right also wrong.


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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159499)
Look it up la. Singapore GDP - 5.4% the worst ever in 2020.
You all kena cut 5% is consistent and logical to the performance of the country as a whole.

Bonus is not entitlement.

In a time where temadek salary freeze and cut bonus in solidarity while public sector keep increasing bonus and pay is a slap in the face of other sacrificing Singaporean.

Many companies fail to maintain their staff of still no wage increase this year.
No thanks to civil servant who failed to make Singapore grow.

So nope. Should cut. Not increase.
Performance is not measured by your increase work. Performance is and always a measure of monetary gain. Sheng shiojg did so cause all Singaporeans go and buy like mad from sheng shiong.

I'm not one of those mad who hoard supplies, so I didn't contribute to the sheng shiong bonus...


Unregistered 18-03-2021 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159716)
Everyone complain about CS being hung up about bonuses. While the entire country is on lockdown, your CS go to work and have to work even harder cos so many entitled Singaporeans complaining and demanding CS work harder for them.

When times are good, people say CS slack = don't deserve bonus.
When times are bad, people say CS should stand in solidarity = don't deserve bonus.
Macam CS not common Singaporeans who also need to bring back food to the table. When times are good, CS work as per normal alike other Singaporeans. When times are bad, CS works even harder to ensure the country operates as per normal.. yet kena scolded. Really left right also wrong.

Nothing to be surprised about. There will always be a group out there where their goal is to complain about CS. Guess we just need to ignore these people. End of the day, CS will still continue to work despite knowing that they are serving ungrateful people.

There is no way we can make everyone happy.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 07:37 PM

You are correct. I fully agree.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 08:09 PM

yup, got mine result too. a bit lower than last time

Unregistered 18-03-2021 08:13 PM

5% cut is reasonable I guess. And it is cut to MI and PI only. Not overall salary. So not that bad.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159749)
5% cut is reasonable I guess. And it is cut to MI and PI only. Not overall salary. So not that bad.

yup agree with that

Unregistered 18-03-2021 10:10 PM

I graduated many years ago and my first job was in CS. My friends ridiculed my decision then; "aiyo, why join gahment", "CS no future leh". They drew good salaries in PS and enjoyed fat bonuses. When we met up for gatherings, I was envious of their big and flashy cars and beautiful companions.

I spent some years in CS before moving to PS in the banking and engineering sectors to feel how it was like in the PS. It was always my intention to return to CS to share my wisdom gained in PS.

Then bad times fell like a warhammer on unsuspecting heads. The world economy was hemorrhaging like a gutted open wound. Gurus littered the internet like virtual prophets of doom. I was fortunate enough to return to CS even though it involved a pay cut.

What happened? Those friends who ridiculed me for joining CS came running to me; "eh, got lobang for me?", "can get me into CS?", "pls help me, I'm desperate". Gone were the big and flashy cars and beautiful companions. In their place were final reminders for bills due and divorce papers. And they forgot having ridiculed me those many years back.

I really felt for them and tried to help. Alas, I couldn't as CS also had severe budget cuts for headcount. I believe I managed to rejoin only because of a restructuring and some headcount actually became available due to the agency ending up having to handle more scope.

That's a bit of my chequered history.

Anyway, don't be too glad if CS makes pay cuts across the board. PS may take the opportunity to say "see, gahment ownself cut pay, the situation must be damn jialat, we better follow suit". Win lor, PS complainers ownself sabo.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159718)
Nothing to be surprised about. There will always be a group out there where their goal is to complain about CS. Guess we just need to ignore these people. End of the day, CS will still continue to work despite knowing that they are serving ungrateful people.

There is no way we can make everyone happy.


Unregistered 18-03-2021 10:36 PM

Rumors is tonight can see bonus.. true or not...

Unregistered 18-03-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159716)
Everyone complain about CS being hung up about bonuses. While the entire country is on lockdown, your CS go to work and have to work even harder cos so many entitled Singaporeans complaining and demanding CS work harder for them.

When times are good, people say CS slack = don't deserve bonus.
When times are bad, people say CS should stand in solidarity = don't deserve bonus.
Macam CS not common Singaporeans who also need to bring back food to the table. When times are good, CS work as per normal alike other Singaporeans. When times are bad, CS works even harder to ensure the country operates as per normal.. yet kena scolded. Really left right also wrong.

yup, honestly these people think that all the relief measures, support measures they see just appear by themselves.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159772)
Rumors is tonight can see bonus.. true or not...

Think can only see on Saturday..... the past trend was always on a Saturday.

Unregistered 18-03-2021 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159777)
Think can only see on Saturday..... the past trend was always on a Saturday.

Yup, usually a Saturday so should be Friday night (past midnight) Saturday morning

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:55 AM

[email protected] is down

Unregistered 19-03-2021 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159797)

its back 🤣

Unregistered 19-03-2021 09:23 AM

Problem with CS is too many jiak liao bee do nothing people always toot their horn loud loud at how slack and good life CS in.

While the hardworking staff keep quiet and work behind the scenes

Plus gov propaganda at hiring cs hires always fail
Always show some scholar story or someone with career change bg
What about all the common folk slogging away
I guess donít deserve any coverage

So not surprised ppl think CS do nothing get bonus

Unregistered 19-03-2021 09:35 AM

So? What's your point? Where is the proof? Don't anyhow write.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159816)
Problem with CS is too many jiak liao bee do nothing people always toot their horn loud loud at how slack and good life CS in.

While the hardworking staff keep quiet and work behind the scenes

Plus gov propaganda at hiring cs hires always fail
Always show some scholar story or someone with career change bg
What about all the common folk slogging away
I guess donít deserve any coverage

So not surprised ppl think CS do nothing get bonus

That is why you cannot make everyone happy. Everywhere you go, whether PS or CS, surely got idiots one.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 09:47 AM

I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159822)
I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.

Bye bye troll. You are not welcome here.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159822)
I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.

i wonder whether posters are really civil servants.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 10:28 AM

Civil servant who constantly refresh salary forum website on their phone while at work can't claim they are so suci and halal.

Corrupt is corrupt la.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159822)
I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.



so what are u doing now? don't come ali baba say u on leave whatsoever, in fact you are more free than anyone because you are reading and complaining at things here which do not involve you and even require your presence ...

Unregistered 19-03-2021 12:14 PM

Why non public servants even enter this forum is beyond me. If this is for like minded people to share grievances or general info, then there is no place for trolls. OP, you pay tax, we also pax tax. So stop thinking you're on a high horse and GTFO.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159822)
I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.


Unregistered 19-03-2021 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159840)
Why non public servants even enter this forum is beyond me. If this is for like minded people to share grievances or general info, then there is no place for trolls. OP, you pay tax, we also pax tax. So stop thinking you're on a high horse and GTFO.

Singapore is experiencing the worst gdp ever and here civil servant is expecting bonus etc.
What about the Singaporean who lost their job. Air.aviation etc. Tourism. Karaoke.

Civil servant eat cakes while the struggling working class of Singapore eat kaya toast.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159844)
Singapore is experiencing the worst gdp ever and here civil servant is expecting bonus etc.
What about the Singaporean who lost their job. Air.aviation etc. Tourism. Karaoke.

Civil servant eat cakes while the struggling working class of Singapore eat kaya toast.

When aviation, tourism or karaoke doing well got share cake with CS or not??

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159847)
When aviation, tourism or karaoke doing well got share cake with CS or not??

lol... what cake... crumbs also don't have

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:42 PM

Maid that can't serve should and will be replaced.

Servants that can't serve should and will be replaced.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159822)
I thought CS are so holy and hardworking. Why got time to come to salary forum to compare thickness of pay grade?

It's like people who join ministry. Ministry as in religious... But so obsessed with their pay grade rather than on the religious teaching...

Yeah civil servant. Please serve. You are my servant.

You sure we are your servant? If we are then donít compare us using God benchmark hor. We also need money, need to sleep, eat and poo. We are humans who commit mistakes too.

Trolls and haters here talked like we are God leh. We need to perfect then can be CS. You think what? Beauty pageant meh?

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159844)
Singapore is experiencing the worst gdp ever and here civil servant is expecting bonus etc.
What about the Singaporean who lost their job. Air.aviation etc. Tourism. Karaoke.

Civil servant eat cakes while the struggling working class of Singapore eat kaya toast.

Who say we eat cakes? We eat healthy one ok. Now covid times, must build immunity. Eat cakes will get fat and unhealthy. No receipts donít anyhow say!

Unregistered 19-03-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 159844)
Singapore is experiencing the worst gdp ever and here civil servant is expecting bonus etc.
What about the Singaporean who lost their job. Air.aviation etc. Tourism. Karaoke.

Civil servant eat cakes while the struggling working class of Singapore eat kaya toast.

Question is the $100 billions spent during Covid-19 should equate to $26,000 per Singaporean according to MP Tin Pei Ling who raised it in parliament, however most Singaporeans only got max $1000 during the whole ordeal, so where does the remaining billions go to?

If you are going to raise the GST and more taxes to cover for this shortfall, then the least you could do is climb down from your ivory tower and offer an explanation as to the missing billions spent which the average Singaporean hasn't benefited from. It must be a very flavourful and rich gold tap-like cake that the civil servants are eating from!

Unregistered 19-03-2021 02:00 PM

Urge all actual civil servants to stop taking part in this bickering session. Donít throw face anymore pls.

For those reading, no one can be sure that those posting here are actual civil servants. Donít let a few names sully our reputation.

Unregistered 19-03-2021 02:07 PM

Civil servant should know that salary and bonus and merit and promotion are all confidential matters that should not be shared among colleagues or in public forum such as this.

Please, for the sake, of your reputation, to stop comparing salary and complains how you all only eat breadtalks fluffy exp bread and not cake.

Why you not serving the nation and here browsing Internet..

Embarrassment


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