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Old 14-03-2024, 10:17 PM
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This review is still in the planning phase, and once approved, will likely play out over a number of years. But the situation you described regarding headcount freezes, not replacing exiting staff will happen. In short, a smaller civil service.

To be fair, the vast majority of the scholars do deserve their As and Bs. Not a scholar btw.
theoretically, the implementation of digitalisation/automation phases out mundane, 'brainless' processes, in order to free up bandwidth to do more productive and effective things. a lot of public servants are currently still doing such tasks, and being ineffective.

hence, the headcount freeze is to 'kick' such officers out, and hire more effective people in.

that said, such change will take time, and if you are adaptable enough, use this time to improve and think of ways on how to be effective in your role and value add.

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Hi need some advice

C+ (1st yr)
B (2nd yr)
C+ (3rd yr) - not emplaced yet

Boss said on track for promotion but I'm honestly disappointed as I was hoping to get promotion this year to 11A.

10yr YOE

Thinking of leaving. Isit a waste or shld I hold on abit more?



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Is it normal to get 3 Cs for MX12? Stay or leave?
a C grade simply means you are doing your job, you are an ok worker. nothing more, nothing less

whether to stay or leave depends on what you want. some people are ok with just doing their job and getting a C grade yearly.

if you are thinking of climbing up the ladder, then you need to perform beyond a C grade.

if you think your performance should warrant a B or A instead of a C, talk it out with your bosses on how to improve and what is expected of you.

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Hi need some advice

C+ (1st yr)
B (2nd yr)
C+ (3rd yr) - not emplaced yet

Boss said on track for promotion but I'm honestly disappointed as I was hoping to get promotion this year to 11A.

10yr YOE

Thinking of leaving. Isit a waste or shld I hold on abit more?
A promotion to grade 11A at 11 or 12 YOEs is not slow. You also need a B on the year to be promoted. So I would suggest you do your utmost best this year to earn that B, and that should put you in a good spot. Good luck!
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A promotion to grade 11A at 11 or 12 YOEs is not slow. You also need a B on the year to be promoted. So I would suggest you do your utmost best this year to earn that B, and that should put you in a good spot. Good luck!
pardon me, what does YOE stand for, or mean?
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a C grade simply means you are doing your job, you are an ok worker. nothing more, nothing less

whether to stay or leave depends on what you want. some people are ok with just doing their job and getting a C grade yearly.

if you are thinking of climbing up the ladder, then you need to perform beyond a C grade.

if you think your performance should warrant a B or A instead of a C, talk it out with your bosses on how to improve and what is expected of you.

The huge caveat here is that there is even enough Bs or As to give to you.

Don't forget that if there are enough people that need to promote on that year, you will be pushed down to make way if needed. So even if your boss puts you up for a B, you could still well end up with a C.
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theoretically, the implementation of digitalisation/automation phases out mundane, 'brainless' processes, in order to free up bandwidth to do more productive and effective things. a lot of public servants are currently still doing such tasks, and being ineffective.

hence, the headcount freeze is to 'kick' such officers out, and hire more effective people in.

that said, such change will take time, and if you are adaptable enough, use this time to improve and think of ways on how to be effective in your role and value add.
I sincerely doubt this is working the way it's intended. What is happening in my org is that alot of the youths are simply leaving en masse.

They already see their managers under such heavy workload, piling up and know this isn't the kind of life they want.

It's not keeping effective people, it's actually causing the good ones that have options to leave to actually leave. What remains are the ones that can't.
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I sincerely doubt this is working the way it's intended. What is happening in my org is that alot of the youths are simply leaving en masse.

They already see their managers under such heavy workload, piling up and know this isn't the kind of life they want.

It's not keeping effective people, it's actually causing the good ones that have options to leave to actually leave. What remains are the ones that can't.
Hence we need scholars who are bonded with golden handcuffs. Parachuted or not, as long as they can do the job better than the peasants and farmers.
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Hi need some advice

C+ (1st yr)
B (2nd yr)
C+ (3rd yr) - not emplaced yet

Boss said on track for promotion but I'm honestly disappointed as I was hoping to get promotion this year to 11A.

10yr YOE

Thinking of leaving. Isit a waste or shld I hold on abit more?
Reaching 11A with 11 years of experience (i.e. around 36 for a male with NS) is not considered slow, given that the CEP for most people is capped at MX11A or MX10.

So ultimately depends on what you are looking for in your career. However, if your career goal is to reach superscale, then I would say the chances aren't high. Not impossible, but tough. Most of the superscale officers that I know personally had obtained MX10 grades before they turned 40.
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I sincerely doubt this is working the way it's intended. What is happening in my org is that alot of the youths are simply leaving en masse.

They already see their managers under such heavy workload, piling up and know this isn't the kind of life they want.

It's not keeping effective people, it's actually causing the good ones that have options to leave to actually leave. What remains are the ones that can't.
Hard truth right there^.

I myself am observing the incompetent managers (that the org trying to get rid of but can't because they are on perm) just pushing all their work down to staffers, and all the staffers leaving. Youngsters are capable but they won't stand for BS - I've seen managers organise 10 meetings to settle edits to 1 doc that they should just edit themselves.

But the incompetent managers will just bring in a new batch of fresh grad suckers to burn them out.
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