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Unregistered 12-03-2021 09:16 AM

Dunno who's that person who claim he/she is CS and saw the PB. Damn ass indeed

Unregistered 12-03-2021 10:10 AM

Troller
 
Anyone can post anything here anonymously so don't be surprised by those who lives in the internet world just to troll and created fake news for their own amusement. Anyway PB's norm has rarely changed. So just wait till later part of the month and u will get it somehow if u r entitled to it. No point being trolled.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 11:22 AM

maybe the person saw his old pb and thought jt was the new one haha

Unregistered 12-03-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158847)
maybe the person saw his old pb and thought jt was the new one haha

Is it true that one must get 2-3yrs B grading to qualify for a promotion. Tat's too challenging..

Unregistered 12-03-2021 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158848)
Is it true that one must get 2-3yrs B grading to qualify for a promotion. Tat's too challenging..

You should check with your boss and HR.
Also you need a boss who is willing to fight for your promotion. You are being compare across the board.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158848)
Is it true that one must get 2-3yrs B grading to qualify for a promotion. Tat's too challenging..

It is challenging if you are not the chosen/favoured ones. I know a new joiner getting B for first full appraisal, where the RO had to write long statement to justify. But for me, first 3 years RO can tell me i still new and a C grade is normal. 4th yr C+ she say very good liao, very few get B. 5th year back to C grade and she says she will fight for better projects for me next yr (i.e. 2020). Waiting to see what cock reason she will give for my 6th appraisal in a few days.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158855)
It is challenging if you are not the chosen/favoured ones. I know a new joiner getting B for first full appraisal, where the RO had to write long statement to justify. But for me, first 3 years RO can tell me i still new and a C grade is normal. 4th yr C+ she say very good liao, very few get B. 5th year back to C grade and she says she will fight for better projects for me next yr (i.e. 2020). Waiting to see what cock reason she will give for my 6th appraisal in a few days.

i first year B, this year should be B+..
my RO (DD), D and GD push me for promotion to mx10.

but was told to be prepare if rejected by HR. because HR got alot of questions.
until now still not sure. anyway, will take it as a bonus if i am promoted

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:11 PM

What is the estimate salary range for mx10 and mx11a?

Which mx is SAD?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158859)
i first year B, this year should be B+..
my RO (DD), D and GD push me for promotion to mx10.

but was told to be prepare if rejected by HR. because HR got alot of questions.
until now still not sure. anyway, will take it as a bonus if i am promoted

If you were to make an educated guess, what do you think your cep is?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158855)
It is challenging if you are not the chosen/favoured ones. I know a new joiner getting B for first full appraisal, where the RO had to write long statement to justify. But for me, first 3 years RO can tell me i still new and a C grade is normal. 4th yr C+ she say very good liao, very few get B. 5th year back to C grade and she says she will fight for better projects for me next yr (i.e. 2020). Waiting to see what cock reason she will give for my 6th appraisal in a few days.

Ya I agree. Most of the time ppl is lazy to justify the high grades.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158872)
What is the estimate salary range for mx10 and mx11a?

Which mx is SAD?

should be mx10. but SAD can be held by as junior as 11A

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158876)
If you were to make an educated guess, what do you think your cep is?

not sure. i am 36 this year. cross over from private sector 2 yrs ago
any enlightenment?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158891)
should be mx10. but SAD can be held by as junior as 11A

should be the other way round.
most SAD are mx11a but SAD can be as senior as mx10

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:16 PM

Hi,

I'm an asean scholar from Vietnam.
Currently studying in NTU on Track to FCH.

I would like to apply for a civil service position as a scholar but my Singapore friends told me civil service is only for Singaporean.

Is it true?

Can a PR work for the government?
I'm very interested to join govtech as I'm a strong in tech and a scholar.

Or am I denied the opportunity because I'm not Singaporean?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:26 PM

Damn so the 5% is true ornot... im from SB, PB at 23 march... i think all SB diff payout from the earlier thread i read

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158899)
Hi,

I'm an asean scholar from Vietnam.
Currently studying in NTU on Track to FCH.

I would like to apply for a civil service position as a scholar but my Singapore friends told me civil service is only for Singaporean.

Is it true?

Can a PR work for the government?
I'm very interested to join govtech as I'm a strong in tech and a scholar.

Or am I denied the opportunity because I'm not Singaporean?

Denied.
Go serve Vietnam civil service after you fulfill your 5 years bond working in Singapore.
And thank you for paying 5 years of tax.

That's all. Enjoy your way back to Vietnam..

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158899)
Hi,

I'm an asean scholar from Vietnam.
Currently studying in NTU on Track to FCH.

I would like to apply for a civil service position as a scholar but my Singapore friends told me civil service is only for Singaporean.

Is it true?

Can a PR work for the government?
I'm very interested to join govtech as I'm a strong in tech and a scholar.

Or am I denied the opportunity because I'm not Singaporean?

You have to pass the security screening first.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158903)
You have to pass the security screening first.

I thought security clearance is only for defence related agency..
You mean every civil servant have to get security clearance?

I can't work for immigration office also?
So all civil sector is only reserved to Singaporean?

I have to work in private sector?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158905)
I thought security clearance is only for defence related agency..
You mean every civil servant have to get security clearance?

I can't work for immigration office also?
So all civil sector is only reserved to Singaporean?

I have to work in private sector?

ministry are less likely but stat boards more likely to accept PR and to some extent some statboards Foreigners if a niche skills is needed such as deep tech skills

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158905)
I thought security clearance is only for defence related agency..
You mean every civil servant have to get security clearance?

I can't work for immigration office also?
So all civil sector is only reserved to Singaporean?

I have to work in private sector?

I believe some roles are open to foreigners (e.g. scientific research), but most positions require minimally Singapore PR. Those in in ministries and sensitive roles are usually open to citizens only plus you'll need to go for security clearance. I believe this is the norm for any country government, so it shouldn't be surprising. If you are really interested, suggest you get the answers directly from the horse's mouth. ;)

Unregistered 12-03-2021 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158912)
I believe some roles are open to foreigners (e.g. scientific research), but most positions require minimally Singapore PR. Those in in ministries and sensitive roles are usually open to citizens only plus you'll need to go for security clearance. I believe this is the norm for any country government, so it shouldn't be surprising. If you are really interested, suggest you get the answers directly from the horse's mouth. ;)

I'm still currently on student pass as I'm still a student.
So upon my graduation, I have to apply for PR and a job with the govtech.

Hope I get it thanks!

Unregistered 12-03-2021 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158896)
should be the other way round.
most SAD are mx11a but SAD can be as senior as mx10

Can mx10 hit 10k/mth?

jrbearus 12-03-2021 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158915)
Can mx10 hit 10k/mth?

Yes, the maximum is around $11,000 per month.

jrbearus 12-03-2021 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158330)
Did your RO hint you on possible promotion during appraisal? Wondering if promotion is put up by RO or CO?

Promotion depends not only on consistent performance but also the number of years in grade. Equally important is the availability of post at higher grade.

jrbearus 12-03-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158484)
Is there a difference in quantum between C+ and C , between B+ and B?

Yes there is. Grade C is usually the base rate for each scheme of service. Different schemes have different base rate for C grade.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 03:49 PM

Interesting and also baffling to note that u have a certain thinking and expectation of things. Haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158899)
Hi,

I'm an asean scholar from Vietnam.
Currently studying in NTU on Track to FCH.

I would like to apply for a civil service position as a scholar but my Singapore friends told me civil service is only for Singaporean.

Is it true?

Can a PR work for the government?
I'm very interested to join govtech as I'm a strong in tech and a scholar.

Or am I denied the opportunity because I'm not Singaporean?


Unregistered 12-03-2021 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 158928)
Promotion depends not only on consistent performance but also the number of years in grade. Equally important is the availability of post at higher grade.

If your CEP is very low, not much hope for advancement.. Some RO is terrible and mean..

jrbearus 12-03-2021 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158939)
If your CEP is very low, not much hope for advancement.. Some RO is terrible and mean..

CEP determines how far you can go in your career. CEP is a very blunt tool.

Min Chan Chun Sing announced that there will be a refreshed approach to this. if you are in CS, look up ‘Our Core Competencies’ in [email protected] to find out more.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158932)
Interesting and also baffling to note that u have a certain thinking and expectation of things. Haha

Oh yes, I may be Vietnamese but I can assure you I blend in like a Singaporean.
Alof of people don't even notice I'm Vietnamese cause I been here since asean scholar sec 3.

So you can say that I have been converted as a Singaporean.
I plan to apply citizenship but that will come later..

I have plan to work for govtech cause I have internship there.
Yes if might come across as weird but I see Singapore as my home more than Vietnam.
I wouldnf want to go back to Vietnam after I experienced living in Singapore.

I also plan to sign up for SAF volunteer Corps to play my part and to counter the argument that foreigner don't have to serve NS.

I volunteer can?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 158942)
CEP determines how far you can go in your career. CEP is a very blunt tool.

Min Chan Chun Sing announced that there will be a refreshed approach to this. if you are in CS, look up ‘Our Core Competencies’ in [email protected] to find out more.

It's all human factors, top management can hinder your path if they want, your report are under their mercy.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158948)
It's all human factors, top management can hinder your path if they want, your report are under their mercy.

Why you think Chinese always CNY lo hei always ask and pray for career growth.
Must pray one.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158952)
Why you think Chinese always CNY lo hei always ask and pray for career growth.
Must pray one.

Yep, this concept alot of business owner understand from big company to small company
That's why they always give blessing and burn stuff.

Cause really no reason. No business.then pray liao business start to come.

Corporate is also like that. Must pray for it.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 158928)
Promotion depends not only on consistent performance but also the number of years in grade. Equally important is the availability of post at higher grade.

What is the number of years in grade required ?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrbearus (Post 158929)
Yes there is. Grade C is usually the base rate for each scheme of service. Different schemes have different base rate for C grade.

Thanks for the sharing. Similarly, there is different quota for C+ and C as well?

Unregistered 12-03-2021 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158976)
What is the number of years in grade required ?

time norms for mx grade differs from grade to grade

junior grade could be 1 year, senior grade could be like 3-5 years

Unregistered 12-03-2021 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158905)
I thought security clearance is only for defence related agency..
You mean every civil servant have to get security clearance?

I can't work for immigration office also?
So all civil sector is only reserved to Singaporean?

I have to work in private sector?

Are u joking? Immigration definitely won't take you, imagine immigration taking in foreigners to open the floodgate themselves

Unregistered 12-03-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158978)
time norms for mx grade differs from grade to grade

junior grade could be 1 year, senior grade could be like 3-5 years

Any 1 can share what’s their progression like from mx11A to mx10?

jrbearus 12-03-2021 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158976)
What is the number of years in grade required ?

It varies from grade to grade. Can be as short as three to five years to ten years. Usually not disclosed though.

jrbearus 12-03-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158977)
Thanks for the sharing. Similarly, there is different quota for C+ and C as well?

Yes C+ and C have different quotas. For example, out of 100 officers, 50 will have C+ and above. The rest are C, C-, D and E. The percentage may also different within Ministry and SB.

Unregistered 12-03-2021 07:18 PM

U will need to convert to citizen first.
If u had served NS, the situation would have tilted in your favour.
Because u didn't, whatever u said below hold less water.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 158943)
Oh yes, I may be Vietnamese but I can assure you I blend in like a Singaporean.
Alof of people don't even notice I'm Vietnamese cause I been here since asean scholar sec 3.

So you can say that I have been converted as a Singaporean.
I plan to apply citizenship but that will come later..

I have plan to work for govtech cause I have internship there.
Yes if might come across as weird but I see Singapore as my home more than Vietnam.
I wouldnf want to go back to Vietnam after I experienced living in Singapore.

I also plan to sign up for SAF volunteer Corps to play my part and to counter the argument that foreigner don't have to serve NS.

I volunteer can?



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