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Old 28-03-2022, 01:35 AM
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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

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Old 28-03-2022, 01:48 AM
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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

constructive comments please.
If you even have to ask this kind of question as you begin work as a fresh grad, you probably won’t go very far in civil service (and better not, for the nation’s sake too). If you really understand the ethics and mission of civil service, you will know that “pleasing your bosses” should NOT be the main driver for your work. Besides, how can anyone generalize all “civil service bosses”? Do you know how many ministries, divisions, departments there are in total? So really, you have asked a very ignorant question.

I will suggest however, two books that you should read if you are really keen to develop your capacity as a civil servant. Or maybe after reading, you might realize that you aren’t actually cut out to be a good civil servant and should seek other pastures. Either way, it may help you.

1. “Neither Civil Nor Servant” - The Philip Yeo Story
2. “The Leader, The Teacher, and You” - Lim Siong Guan

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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

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depends on team

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those in htx, have you all received promotion news? if not, means not promoted right?
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Old 28-03-2022, 01:57 AM
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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

constructive comments please.
You have asked such an ignorant question that makes me think that you are really not suited to be in civil service and won’t go very far. If you truly understand the ethics and mission of civil service, the significance and value-addedness of a good civil servant for the betterment of society, you will know that “pleasing your bosses” should never be a driver of one’s work. One must do what’s right and fair, without fear or favors, in civil service.

There are 2 books I would strongly recommend that you read if you are really invested in your own professional capacity as a civil servant. Or maybe after reading, you might realize that you aren’t actually cut out for this work and should seek other pastures. Either way, hope the reading benefits you:

1. Neither Civil Nor Servant - The Phillip Yeo Story
2. The Leader, The Teacher, and You - Lim Siong Guan
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Old 28-03-2022, 01:59 AM
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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

constructive comments please.
You have asked such an ignorant question that makes me think that you are really not suited to be in civil service and won’t go very far. If you truly understand the ethics and mission of civil service, the significance and value-addedness of a good civil servant for the betterment of society, you will know that “pleasing your bosses” should never be a driver of one’s work. One must do what’s right and fair, without fear or favors, in civil service. Besides, do you know how many ministries, divisions, departments there are in civil service?? How can you generalize all the bosses?

There are 2 books I would strongly recommend that you read if you are really invested in your own professional capacity as a civil servant. Or maybe after reading, you might realize that you aren’t actually cut out for this work and should seek other pastures. Either way, hope the reading benefits you:

1. Neither Civil Nor Servant - The Phillip Yeo Story
2. The Leader, The Teacher, and You - Lim Siong Guan
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You have asked such an ignorant question that makes me think that you are really not suited to be in civil service and won’t go very far. If you truly understand the ethics and mission of civil service, the significance and value-addedness of a good civil servant for the betterment of society, you will know that “pleasing your bosses” should never be a driver of one’s work. One must do what’s right and fair, without fear or favors, in civil service.

There are 2 books I would strongly recommend that you read if you are really invested in your own professional capacity as a civil servant. Or maybe after reading, you might realize that you aren’t actually cut out for this work and should seek other pastures. Either way, hope the reading benefits you:

1. Neither Civil Nor Servant - The Phillip Yeo Story
2. The Leader, The Teacher, and You - Lim Siong Guan
bro is the civil service not some high tech end company
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You have asked such an ignorant question that makes me think that you are really not suited to be in civil service and won’t go very far. If you truly understand the ethics and mission of civil service, the significance and value-addedness of a good civil servant for the betterment of society, you will know that “pleasing your bosses” should never be a driver of one’s work. One must do what’s right and fair, without fear or favors, in civil service.

There are 2 books I would strongly recommend that you read if you are really invested in your own professional capacity as a civil servant. Or maybe after reading, you might realize that you aren’t actually cut out for this work and should seek other pastures. Either way, hope the reading benefits you:

1. Neither Civil Nor Servant - The Phillip Yeo Story
2. The Leader, The Teacher, and You - Lim Siong Guan
There are indeed many yes man in civil service. Books are just books.
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A fresh grad here who just entered civil service. will like to ask, if civil service bosses will prefer Yes Man, obedient kind of people to lead, or people who constantly feedback and seek to change and improve stuff type?

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if you don't say yes to everything and ang ka your boss how to promote?
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There are indeed many yes man in civil service. Books are just books.
Of course there are yes man around, in any organization, but the question is do YOU have to be one? Better to read quality books than speak from one’s farts
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