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Unregistered 19-03-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115111)
I got 13 months of bonus. Not in CS.

With your base monthly salary as $500, this 13 months of bonus is going to be a lot. Congrats.

Unregistered 19-03-2019 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115127)
With your base monthly salary as $500, this 13 months of bonus is going to be a lot. Congrats.


Just to check, joined last year in May period, does it mean that my grade is default C?

Unregistered 20-03-2019 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115152)
Just to check, joined last year in May period, does it mean that my grade is default C?

Yes you will get C

Unregistered 20-03-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115091)
Hi guys

Hope someone can help me with this.
My boss told me that for prorated bonus for qualifying officers will only come in April.
I've check pac gov but there is no pb letter.

I only joined the ministry back in sep 2018.

Does this happen to anybody else? Or does PB for all come in today?

Anyone can advice?

Unregistered 20-03-2019 12:33 PM

I think if you can prove your mettle, and with quite a bit of luck, you can go beyond C. I joined in Feb, got B.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115152)
Just to check, joined last year in May period, does it mean that my grade is default C?


Unregistered 20-03-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115168)
Anyone can advice?

I previously join in Dec of the year and has gotten the pb same time as the rest

Dufresne 20-03-2019 07:21 PM

Dear All, I have a master's and bachelor's degree from the same local uni, 1st class honors, in fact i topped my graduating class. It's a humanities/language degree though, I have been working at a media company for 6 mths, easy work no stress but very pathetic pay at 3.6k per month (got 13 mth and PB but still very bad compared to civil service)

I feel that I am not doing my stellar results justice, if I join CS with my results probably can get much better package, but the problem is I don't really have much interest in them and unsure which ministry/SB to join. And no MOE please I don't wanna do teaching.

I am thinking about MCI, IWDA etc. What do you guys think?

Thanks.

Unregistered 20-03-2019 11:12 PM

How much increment can i expect as a B grade mx12 officer.

Unregistered 21-03-2019 12:58 AM

What's the expected MI for a MX12 with PB of C?

Unregistered 21-03-2019 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dufresne (Post 115198)
Dear All, I have a master's and bachelor's degree from the same local uni, 1st class honors, in fact i topped my graduating class. It's a humanities/language degree though, I have been working at a media company for 6 mths, easy work no stress but very pathetic pay at 3.6k per month (got 13 mth and PB but still very bad compared to civil service)

I feel that I am not doing my stellar results justice, if I join CS with my results probably can get much better package, but the problem is I don't really have much interest in them and unsure which ministry/SB to join. And no MOE please I don't wanna do teaching.

I am thinking about MCI, IWDA etc. What do you guys think?

Thanks.

A good academic result is helpful at the recruitment stage. They can give you an edge to get pass the recruitment interviews and land the job. After that, its your performance, your EQ, CEP, and how well you can work with all levels of staff - from subordinates to peers to top management.

Robert Kiyosaki made this observation (and I have seen this myself even in the CS), that Grade A graduates worked for Grade C graduates, and Grade B graduates ended up in the CS.

In the CS department where I worked, among the same cohort of graduates, I observed that the FCH graduates ended up being subordinates to some of their Lower Honours counterparts.
It seemed that FCH graduates are good workers but they lack the "smarts!"

So, a good academic result can only get you so far, its your "smarts" that will move you up.

Unregistered 21-03-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115223)
What's the expected MI for a MX12 with PB of C?

should be $216

Unregistered 21-03-2019 01:43 PM

If I did my practicum in the first term and joined the school in second term (Apr), will my PB be pro-rated?

Unregistered 21-03-2019 02:36 PM

“Hi guys
Hope someone can help me with this.
My boss told me that for prorated bonus for qualifying officers will only come in April.
I've check pac gov but there is no pb letter.
I only joined the ministry back in sep 2018.
Does this happen to anybody else? Or does PB for all come in today?”

--- SAR assessment period is from Oct to end-Sep. It is based on this assessment period that you are given a PB in Mar. So, what PB are you expecting to get if you joined in Sep itself, for less than a month of assessment? So, you are highly unlikely to get PB if you haven’t already gotten one before end-Mar 2019.

Unregistered 21-03-2019 02:54 PM

Is getting 1.2 mths PB for a MX12 officer with grade C very little? :’(

Unregistered 21-03-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115263)
Is getting 1.2 mths PB for a MX12 officer with grade C very little? :’(

Yes should be 1.5 at least

Unregistered 21-03-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115267)
Yes should be 1.5 at least

This is my first year in my current stat board. Previously was from other stat boards and minimally will get 1.5. So was quite sad to see 1.2 :(

Unregistered 21-03-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115253)
should be $216

Thanks! Fingers crossed.

Unregistered 21-03-2019 05:03 PM

Lta pb
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115084)
lte9.. avg say grade 4? is there a diff in pb tie to lte?

anyone can share?

aidan88 21-03-2019 05:38 PM

Hi. I am an A*Star staff in one of the RIs. I still havent received my PB. Anyone in the same shoe as me? Any idea when the payout would be usually and the result of our appraisal?

Unregistered 21-03-2019 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aidan88 (Post 115272)
Hi. I am an A*Star staff in one of the RIs. I still havent received my PB. Anyone in the same shoe as me? Any idea when the payout would be usually and the result of our appraisal?

PB for AStar staff is usually paid together with Apr's salary.

Unregistered 21-03-2019 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115271)
anyone can share?

Why dun u share hw many mths u got when it's out next week?

Unregistered 22-03-2019 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dufresne (Post 115198)
Dear All, I have a master's and bachelor's degree from the same local uni, 1st class honors, in fact i topped my graduating class. It's a humanities/language degree though, I have been working at a media company for 6 mths, easy work no stress but very pathetic pay at 3.6k per month (got 13 mth and PB but still very bad compared to civil service)

I feel that I am not doing my stellar results justice, if I join CS with my results probably can get much better package, but the problem is I don't really have much interest in them and unsure which ministry/SB to join. And no MOE please I don't wanna do teaching.

I am thinking about MCI, IWDA etc. What do you guys think?

Thanks.


Join MFA. Strategic Communications Directorate is looking for talent. Pay is higher than MX scheme. Go for it.

Unregistered 22-03-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115312)
Join MFA. Strategic Communications Directorate is looking for talent. Pay is higher than MX scheme. Go for it.

Mx scheme vs economist scheme vs saf/spf/scdf scheme, which pays best?

Unregistered 22-03-2019 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115314)
Mx scheme vs economist scheme vs saf/spf/scdf scheme, which pays best?

AO scheme is the best if you can get in.

Unregistered 24-03-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115045)
Nope. No news now means not promoted already. I’m also asking around but they shared diff agency have diff ways to handling promotion. Some shared boss already informed before PB grade, some will share after PB. Can anyone share how this works?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115065)
When you're informed of promotion, do you also get a promotion letter?

Ministry officer here, and seconded to SB.
For both my promotions, i received promotion letters signed off by my PS.
Letters will be passed to you via your Director, so that they are aware. I only got my second letter one week late even tho it was signed on 15 Mar, likely cause ministry HR send thru SB HR...

Unregistered 25-03-2019 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115379)
Ministry officer here, and seconded to SB.
For both my promotions, i received promotion letters signed off by my PS.
Letters will be passed to you via your Director, so that they are aware. I only got my second letter one week late even tho it was signed on 15 Mar, likely cause ministry HR send thru SB HR...

Hi. Did you just got your promotion letter? So far. No news from HR or Director. Means not promoted this year :(

Unregistered 25-03-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115403)
Hi. Did you just got your promotion letter? So far. No news from HR or Director. Means not promoted this year :(

Yeap, My Director passed to me last friday.

Unregistered 25-03-2019 07:50 PM

I'm in one of the MOT stat boards with around 5 years of work experience.

- Last promoted 2017.
- Recieved "B" for work done in 2018 with a 3-month bonus.
- Promoted this year, with salary increase of 11%.

Unregistered 25-03-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115424)
I'm in one of the MOT stat boards with around 5 years of work experience.

- Last promoted 2017.
- Recieved "B" for work done in 2018 with a 3-month bonus.
- Promoted this year, with salary increase of 11%.

Cannot even spell the word received correctly, i really doubt that you are promoted.

gvogels 26-03-2019 02:52 PM

Hello everyone, just joined this forum.

I am a 2nd Upper BSc local grad, serving in one of the SBs since mid 2012. Had some decent contributions and just got a "within-grade" promotion recently which pumped me to MX12 salary ceiling.

Anyone more senior in CS/PS was in this situation and salary stagnated (no more increment)? Wondering if i should go further study haha.

Unregistered 26-03-2019 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gvogels (Post 115492)
Hello everyone, just joined this forum.

I am a 2nd Upper BSc local grad, serving in one of the SBs since mid 2012. Had some decent contributions and just got a "within-grade" promotion recently which pumped me to MX12 salary ceiling.

Anyone more senior in CS/PS was in this situation and salary stagnated (no more increment)? Wondering if i should go further study haha.

- Ask your boss thru your Supervisor for any "CCAs" they can nominate you for. Being involved in organising committees for events like family day, DnD, Innovation day, etc will give you a bigger network, and you may have the chance to interact with senior management at such events.

- Also volunteer for small tasks like meeting secretariats, writing speeches, liaison officer for events etc. These help bosses get a better feel of how you think, how you act under pressure.

- Network outside your team and dept. Meet with other colleagues for lunch and get news on the grapevine. Who is leaving (vacancy!), who is a good boss, which Dir is new, what is the Dept focusing on (e.g. aging agency workforce, hence need to reduce manpower on repetitive tasks). This helps you understand what are the growing areas of the SB where new blood, ideas are needed.

- When you go to your Supervisor, DD or Director, with a problem, give them solutions. Have one good solution, with a couple of alternates, and be clear on the pros and cons. They may not proceed with your first solution, or any of them, but it helps them see you are thinking critically. Remember you are the officer who has the best understanding of the ground dynamics, but your bosses have to consider dept-wide, SB-wide, or even ministry-wide implications. Give them a solution that tries to balance both perspectives.

-Review your past PB grades. Like one bro here said, you need a minimum of 2 consecutive C+ to get into the promotion queue. Take a look at your portfolio to see where you can value-add, or add more tasks that make that yearly assessment look better. Dont view the mid-yearly or end-yearly assessment a chore or have your supervisor chase you for it. Have a good store of high points/accomplishments so that your supervisor has plenty of ammunition to propose a good grade for the Director to support.

- Lastly and seriously, if your Director is not giving you the C+s, and not willing to give you tasks to profile yourself better - look for a new Dept.

Unregistered 27-03-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gvogels (Post 115492)
Hello everyone, just joined this forum.

I am a 2nd Upper BSc local grad, serving in one of the SBs since mid 2012. Had some decent contributions and just got a "within-grade" promotion recently which pumped me to MX12 salary ceiling.

Anyone more senior in CS/PS was in this situation and salary stagnated (no more increment)? Wondering if i should go further study haha.

If you're now at the ceiling, next year if you get promoted again will cross it right?

Unregistered 28-03-2019 09:01 PM

Merit increment only out on 1 apr?

Unregistered 28-03-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115597)
Merit increment only out on 1 apr?

Usually around 7 April you will be able to see it

AhBoi 28-03-2019 10:15 PM

Lta
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115271)
anyone can share?

my friend is a manager there (not sure the grade). bonus abt 1.5 plus

Unregistered 29-03-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gvogels (Post 115492)
Hello everyone, just joined this forum.

I am a 2nd Upper BSc local grad, serving in one of the SBs since mid 2012. Had some decent contributions and just got a "within-grade" promotion recently which pumped me to MX12 salary ceiling.

Anyone more senior in CS/PS was in this situation and salary stagnated (no more increment)? Wondering if i should go further study haha.

The reply posted to this post earlier (the long post) with tips on how to gain more exposure and increase chances of promotion/raise CEP are pretty spot-on. To summarise, don't just do work assigned, instead ask for some CCAs as well, and most importantly, be SEEN to do work as well. From personal experience, visibility of work done is just as important as doing the work well (though I have to admit I myself have been guilty of being just focused on completing the task at hand)

I haven't dealt with the salary stagnation scenario yet, but I have some friends who are in that situation. Have one friend in early-40s who has been in that position for 3 years now, stuck at MX11A. His approach is to be zen about the whole situation since he is very comfortable with what he earns vs what he spends (also helps that he is single).

Salary stagnation is usually due to CEP-related issues. So, the only way to overcome is to do stuff that raises CEP, which then puts you in a good position to be promoted. Otherwise, as I have suggested before, 2C+ puts you the promotion queue, but in a low CEP situation, even 2B+ won't help your case. I know of someone who has had B+ for 3-4 years in a row and still hasn't been promoted (recently stuck with salary stagnation issues because those pay increments add up quick).

Lastly, I doubt furthering studies will help increase your CEP - unless its a case of being sponsored to further studies by your organisation. However, it could be a good way to gain new skills or improve your chances to land another job (e.g. if you did an MBA/MPA).

Unregistered 30-03-2019 04:29 PM

I fully agree with what is written below.

Further studies don't help, unless it is initiated/sponsored by your organisation. Then it will be a totally different story.

Indeed, a lot of people grumble about slow progression or lack of promotion. Compounded by comparison with peers too. Yes, it all boils down to CEP.

There are ways to enhance CEP (which I wont share here). It's not magic though. Just got to work very very smart and very very hard.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115624)
The reply posted to this post earlier (the long post) with tips on how to gain more exposure and increase chances of promotion/raise CEP are pretty spot-on. To summarise, don't just do work assigned, instead ask for some CCAs as well, and most importantly, be SEEN to do work as well. From personal experience, visibility of work done is just as important as doing the work well (though I have to admit I myself have been guilty of being just focused on completing the task at hand)

I haven't dealt with the salary stagnation scenario yet, but I have some friends who are in that situation. Have one friend in early-40s who has been in that position for 3 years now, stuck at MX11A. His approach is to be zen about the whole situation since he is very comfortable with what he earns vs what he spends (also helps that he is single).

Salary stagnation is usually due to CEP-related issues. So, the only way to overcome is to do stuff that raises CEP, which then puts you in a good position to be promoted. Otherwise, as I have suggested before, 2C+ puts you the promotion queue, but in a low CEP situation, even 2B+ won't help your case. I know of someone who has had B+ for 3-4 years in a row and still hasn't been promoted (recently stuck with salary stagnation issues because those pay increments add up quick).

Lastly, I doubt furthering studies will help increase your CEP - unless its a case of being sponsored to further studies by your organisation. However, it could be a good way to gain new skills or improve your chances to land another job (e.g. if you did an MBA/MPA).


Unregistered 30-03-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115597)
Merit increment only out on 1 apr?

It cannot be on the 1st of April because that will be a foolish thing to do.

Smart888 31-03-2019 12:11 AM

Not easy to promote nowadays, those low salaries affected the most, yearly less than $200 increment, stagnant if hit ceiling.

Unregistered 01-04-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115707)
It cannot be on the 1st of April because that will be a foolish thing to do.

I saw the merit increment on the Pac and gov portal.. for those who are promoted when will the promotion increment be updated?


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