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Unregistered 16-03-2019 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dufresne (Post 114952)
True, but how many top bankers are there? For an average individual, civil service higher?

Yes, agreed. Civil service is good for the average performer. Just continue to farm. Will earn enough to get by. Won’t be full but also won’t starve.

Unregistered 16-03-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114953)
I have been working for 7 years. Not even promoted from mx 12 to mx 11

You have every right to be annoyed, but don't worry too much. Across the civil service as a whole, your situation may not be uncommon. I recall in the past dpm teo mentioned something along the lines of there being around 6-8% of the whole civil service who are MX10 and above (including AOs). If you wana go one step higher, he said the following in 2015 COS speech:

"In actual fact, the MX 9 (Superscale) pool is part of a select group of senior civil servants in senior leadership positions. They made up just 1.2%, just 1.2%, of our 76,000 civil servants then."

I knew of a colleague who retired from saf and joined my office, and she was converted to a mx11 and has been one for the past 4-5 years.

It may be a case that you are in a place where you have too many high flyers around hence your ranking gets lower, or perhaps your bosses dont give you projects that can profile your work better. In that case a transfer to another ministry may be the better option.

Unregistered 16-03-2019 11:38 PM

I’m not from ESG lor.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114938)
Which stat board you from? Enterprise SG doesnt have mid yr plus end yr.


Unregistered 17-03-2019 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114968)
I’m not from ESG lor.

K then name some stat boards tt give mid yr and end yr bonuses along with pb. For example, most stat boards, like ESG and DSTA, don't have them.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114962)
It may be a case that you are in a place where you have too many high flyers around hence your ranking gets lower, or perhaps your bosses dont give you projects that can profile your work better. In that case a transfer to another ministry may be the better option.

“High-flyer”, in many cases, merely means how much the bosses like you only. There are many such “high flyers” with laughable abilities and inadequate experience.

Secondly, many projects have lists of tasks and phases. Being involved in one or two tasks/phases doesnt mean you get recognised in your appraisal as having done a “project”. Then, there are many useless projects for the bosses to make their dept look busy but in reality, you also wont get promoted because of that.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 08:41 AM

I intend to appeal to management. My boss intend to fight a double promotion next year, to compenstate. Fighting from MX 12 to MX 11 is already so hard. She still want to fight for double promotion

Unregistered 17-03-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114980)
I intend to appeal to management. My boss intend to fight a double promotion next year, to compenstate. Fighting from MX 12 to MX 11 is already so hard. She still want to fight for double promotion

Is she just paying lip service? If she is capable of fighting for you double promotion, why she failed to promote you from 12 to 11 in the 1st place?

Unregistered 17-03-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114918)
Lower than the same grade for past years. Govt cutting cost already.

According to my 2 sources in MOE, both got higher PB quantum for C as compared to previous year leh...

Unregistered 17-03-2019 09:03 AM

does anyone know if pb assessment is frm jan-dec? will I still be graded if I am on ml frm feb followed by npl for the whole year?

Unregistered 17-03-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114981)
Is she just paying lip service? If she is capable of fighting for you double promotion, why she failed to promote you from 12 to 11 in the 1st place?

I wanted to seek appeal. What is my chances? I did so much xtra and above task. Staff came much later than me, all got promoted except me. I nvr get C+ for consectetive yrs. Would appeal help

Unregistered 17-03-2019 10:41 AM

Hi, I am currently with one of the starboard which only pays out PB in May and one month only AWS (no other variable bonus) in Dec every year. Assuming that I manage to clinch an offer from another ministry or starboard in late March or in April, do I stand a chance to negotiate with the offering agency to allow me to commence work after I completed my 1mth notice following the on payout?

Unregistered 17-03-2019 10:46 AM

Hi, I am currently with one of the statboard which only pays out PB in May and one month only AWS (no other variable bonus) in Dec every year. Assuming that I manage to clinch an offer from another ministry or statboard in late March or in April, do I stand a chance to negotiate with the offering agency to allow me to commence work after I completed my 1mth notice following the pb payout?

Unregistered 17-03-2019 12:00 PM

is it even possible to score an A for PB? i see so many people getting good grades (b and above), i got a c+.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114994)
is it even possible to score an A for PB? i see so many people getting good grades (b and above), i got a c+.

Possible but must excel at every aspect of your job and must go beyond your job scope and even there too. So basically really have to be the Top of the Top in your organisation.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114986)
I wanted to seek appeal. What is my chances? I did so much xtra and above task. Staff came much later than me, all got promoted except me. I nvr get C+ for consectetive yrs. Would appeal help

No harm trying to appeal. Are you an MX 12 or MX11 or 10? The higher your job grade, the more difficult to get a better grade, in my humble opinion.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 114982)
According to my 2 sources in MOE, both got higher PB quantum for C as compared to previous year leh...

Sources from two diff ministries: quantum same

Unregistered 17-03-2019 05:41 PM

Quantum depends on your level of B, C+ and C..

If it’s lower than previous year, it just means your grade is not as ahead of your peers as compared to last year even though u are getting same PB grade

Unregistered 17-03-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115008)
Quantum depends on your level of B, C+ and C..

If it’s lower than previous year, it just means your grade is not as ahead of your peers as compared to last year even though u are getting same PB grade

Agree. I don’t see any reduction in quantum this year leh. Same as last year.

Unregistered 17-03-2019 10:14 PM

Anyone from MOE? Anyone knows if B grade has a range for bonus?

Unregistered 17-03-2019 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115027)
Anyone from MOE? Anyone knows if B grade has a range for bonus?

In another thread ‘Careers as Teachers’, someone posted 2.25-2.75 mths for B grade. Are you in this range?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 12:30 AM

I am a MX10 officer and I got a C grade for performance.

My performance bonus is 2.5 months. Zzzzzz

Unregistered 18-03-2019 06:44 AM

Anyone got informed by boss that you've been promoted?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115028)
In another thread ‘Careers as Teachers’, someone posted 2.25-2.75 mths for B grade. Are you in this range?

Thanks found it. Yup 2.75

Unregistered 18-03-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115031)
I am a MX10 officer and I got a C grade for performance.

My performance bonus is 2.5 months. Zzzzzz

Yea similar boat, mx11a, C grade, pb 2.0 months. Also zzzz. But guess didn't expect much also since got promoted last year.

Unregistered 18-03-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115031)
I am a MX10 officer and I got a C grade for performance.

My performance bonus is 2.5 months. Zzzzzz

Got promoted last year to mx10. Was expecting a C. But slightly happy to get a C+ 2.8 mths instead

Unregistered 18-03-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115033)
Anyone got informed by boss that you've been promoted?

Nope. No news now means not promoted already. I’m also asking around but they shared diff agency have diff ways to handling promotion. Some shared boss already informed before PB grade, some will share after PB. Can anyone share how this works?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 01:04 PM

Different agencies have different ways. Different schools handle promotion diffeeently too. I was informed personally 1 day ago before they announce 2 years ago....Sometimes it’s also about whether they have time to meet you personally to inform

Unregistered 18-03-2019 06:54 PM

When you're informed of promotion, do you also get a promotion letter?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 07:35 PM

Lta pb
 
Anyone from LTA? Any chance to share the avg PB for avg performer?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 08:51 PM

PB grade 5+ in a SB how much quantum anyone knows?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115067)
Anyone from LTA? Any chance to share the avg PB for avg performer?

Average means grade what? 4? Or 4+

Any lte grade?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 10:14 PM

Grade 11, one of the specialist schemes, B, 3.75 mths

Unregistered 18-03-2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115079)
Average means grade what? 4? Or 4+

Any lte grade?

lte9.. avg say grade 4? is there a diff in pb tie to lte?

Unregistered 18-03-2019 11:27 PM

Damn. Wanted a promotion but just got a B

Unregistered 19-03-2019 01:20 AM

Hi guys

Hope someone can help me with this.
My boss told me that for prorated bonus for qualifying officers will only come in April.
I've check pac gov but there is no pb letter.

I only joined the ministry back in sep 2018.

Does this happen to anybody else? Or does PB for all come in today?

Unregistered 19-03-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115045)
Nope. No news now means not promoted already. I’m also asking around but they shared diff agency have diff ways to handling promotion. Some shared boss already informed before PB grade, some will share after PB. Can anyone share how this works?

I asked my HR abt this and he said it's dependent on the Dir. Some choose to inform during PB chat while others do not

Unregistered 19-03-2019 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115082)
Grade 11, one of the specialist schemes, B, 3.75 mths

me too! but received only 3.5mths...

Unregistered 19-03-2019 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 115098)
me too! but received only 3.5mths...

oh wait... I see wrongly... I am from one of the professional scheme of service... 3.5mths is for C grade... not B.

Unregistered 19-03-2019 02:52 PM

HDB.
Grade: Competent
Bonus: 1.25

Unregistered 19-03-2019 04:50 PM

I got 13 months of bonus. Not in CS.


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