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Unregistered 03-04-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82727)
thanks for your insights, my case is a little strange. Got 244 MI for 2014 with a B (mx12).

this year i similarly got a B but the increment was 378 (9%)at Mx12. Is it possible that my cep was reviewed?

Sounds like something to celebrate. Yes higher CEP and possibly narrowing the salary gap between 12 ending and 11 starting pay.
How many years were you in cs?

Unregistered 03-04-2016 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82756)
Sounds like something to celebrate. Yes higher CEP and possibly narrowing the salary gap between 12 ending and 11 starting pay.
How many years were you in cs?

Coming to 3.5 yrs.

Unregistered 03-04-2016 09:43 PM

168
 
Not bad, press on. You will go far

Unregistered 03-04-2016 10:16 PM

How to find out about our cep?

Unregistered 03-04-2016 10:23 PM

It is kept confidential. Well, if you are in good relations with boss (and your CEP is high) he or she might share it with you, but making U swear to confidentiality. Coz which boss wants to tell her/his staff about his/her low cep and subject herself/himself to staff not giving her/his best?
Sometimes through bosses nuances about colleagues/staff in work appraisals, and if you are discerning you can tell. Other times study your own or colleagues' performance and promotions (relative to age) you'll be able to tell. I find it rather apparent. Say, a relatively young one being promoted early whilst another more senior one later (in terms of two of their age) the first one obviously would have higher cep coz need more levels/times of promotion.

Unregistered 03-04-2016 10:28 PM

check this

://.careers.gov.sg/build-your-career/career-toolkit/salary-and-benefits

.careers.gov.sg/build-your-career/career-toolkit/salary-and-benefits

Performance Bonus (PB)
Bonus given to officers based on their performance.

Merit Increment (MI)
Annual increments based on the performance and potential of the officer. This is subject to review and it is dependent on economic conditions.

Unregistered 04-04-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82766)
Not bad, press on. You will go far

It depends. The speed of promotions compared to the norm will say a lot. For people with normal performance, they usually go from mx12 to mx11 in about 8 years' time or so.

Unregistered 04-04-2016 08:46 PM

Promotional increment
 
Anyone has their promotional increment reflected on pac@gov yet?

Unregistered 04-04-2016 09:59 PM

Reflected since 31st March -ministries

Unregistered 04-04-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82822)
It depends. The speed of promotions compared to the norm will say a lot. For people with normal performance, they usually go from mx12 to mx11 in about 8 years' time or so.

It's still considered reasonable. Say freshie cep is mx10. It means two promotions (not counting 11a) over 38years. 8 years to reach 11...not bad

Unregistered 05-04-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82829)
It's still considered reasonable. Say freshie cep is mx10. It means two promotions (not counting 11a) over 38years. 8 years to reach 11...not bad

You would have to count mx11a as one of the promotional grades.

Almost all university graduates enter at mx13 if you are saying they are fresh out. So that's four promotions required to reach mx10 within 37 years.

Unregistered 05-04-2016 08:45 PM

Even if so, mx13 to 12 is auto one year timeline

Unregisteredi 05-04-2016 09:59 PM

So, 36yrs - (minus MX13 to MX12) - 3 promos. Say, 52yo promoted last time(even this is a "liberal" estimate), after 8 yrs promoted to MX11. Naturally take longer time to be promoted to 11a, and even longer interval to 10. In terms of increment sum and reaching salary bar early,it isn't a good thing to be promoted overly early. Which happened to many MX11a officers now. Possibility of no increment once reach bar, until promotion. Can be demotivating)
25-13
26-12
34-11
43 to 46-11a(9-12 yrs interval)
52 to 55-10(ie.7 to 10yrs official retirement age)

Unregistered 05-04-2016 11:23 PM

No NS. Grad in 2014. Promoted from MX13 to 12 with a B ... MI was 16% (over $600)! Is this normal?

Unregistered 05-04-2016 11:57 PM

If you mean normal as regular every year, no; if you mean it as promo from 13 to 12, yes.

Unregistered 06-04-2016 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregisteredi (Post 82893)
So, 36yrs - (minus MX13 to MX12) - 3 promos. Say, 52yo promoted last time(even this is a "liberal" estimate), after 8 yrs promoted to MX11. Naturally take longer time to be promoted to 11a, and even longer interval to 10. In terms of increment sum and reaching salary bar early,it isn't a good thing to be promoted overly early. Which happened to many MX11a officers now. Possibility of no increment once reach bar, until promotion. Can be demotivating)
25-13
26-12
34-11
43 to 46-11a(9-12 yrs interval)
52 to 55-10(ie.7 to 10yrs official retirement age)

True, but you are forgetting one thing-
If the promotion is early and you hit the salary ceiling early, it also means you get more money in the long run.

Unregistered 06-04-2016 08:06 AM

Yes and no, because every average cs of same calibre will go through this promo/increment timeline. All adds up for all cs under same scheme in the end, matter of earlier/later.

Unregistered 06-04-2016 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82909)
Yes and no, because every average cs of same calibre will go through this promo/increment timeline. All adds up for all cs under same scheme in the end, matter of earlier/later.

Nope it's no. There's a difference in total amount of pay at the end; the one who get promoted faster will get more.

Unregistered 06-04-2016 05:39 PM

I could only find the salary range for MX scheme in this forum. However, there was no bar mentioned. Can someone state salary range together with the bar?

Unregistered 06-04-2016 08:56 PM

What I know:
MX 12 - 2860-5874 (no bar)
MX 11 - 4735-7119 (no bar)
MX 11A- 6175-8555 (no bar)
MX 10 - 7001-11466(bar at 9975)

Unregistered 07-04-2016 12:13 AM

I am lecturer in one of the polys (stat board). Which ministries can I join besides MOE?

Unregistered 07-04-2016 12:37 AM

You R not clear. Do u wish to continue teaching? if so, ministries related to training? CSC too

Unregistered 08-04-2016 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 82957)
What I know:
MX 12 - 2860-5874 (no bar)
MX 11 - 4735-7119 (no bar)
MX 11A- 6175-8555 (no bar)
MX 10 - 7001-11466(bar at 9975)

local uni, 2nd upper hons, non high flier, average performer can hit what grade Huh?

Unregistered 08-04-2016 11:14 PM

It's hard to say but if your results is decent and get to be recruited into cs, at least grade 10. I would say grade 9 which starts at 11110, ends 15280(bar) is really for branch/div heads which constitute 15% of generic graduates.

Unregistered 08-04-2016 11:17 PM

MX12, prorated MI 4.7%

Why given prorated MI?

Is it due to change of scheme from MS to MX last year?

Unregistered 09-04-2016 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83131)
It's hard to say but if your results is decent and get to be recruited into cs, at least grade 10. I would say grade 9 which starts at 11110, ends 15280(bar) is really for branch/div heads which constitute 15% of generic graduates.

Wow, pretty good if a normal local uni 2nd upper average performer can hit grade 10 (and get 9 to 10K) subsequently.

MX scheme not bad, better than moe GEO scheme.

Unregistered 09-04-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83146)
Wow, pretty good if a normal local uni 2nd upper average performer can hit grade 10 (and get 9 to 10K) subsequently.

MX scheme not bad, better than moe GEO scheme.

That is assuming the officer attains mx10 or mx9 eventually; teachers are better paid even if they remain at GEO5, not counting their good merit increment yearly as well as their connect plan and now defunct LDS.

Unregistered 09-04-2016 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83163)
That is assuming the officer attains mx10 or mx9 eventually; teachers are better paid even if they remain at GEO5, not counting their good merit increment yearly as well as their connect plan and now defunct LDS.

Mx11A better than GEO 5 still

Unregistered 09-04-2016 11:31 PM

Well the inside story - MXs in MOE regularly compare their overall pay with their teacher counterparts. Like wat is known, there are perks given to teachers, the MXs would like to have too. Over teachers' work career, they will receive a total of about $170,000 in connect plan. That translate to - only MXs earning >$7900(est), could surpass the teachers pay,even if teachers have reached the max.of 7500(est) coz of the average $5700 extra per annum they get from connect plan spreaded out over 30yrs. End day, it is equitable

Unregistered 10-04-2016 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83198)
Mx11A better than GEO 5 still

Yes, but MX11 is supposed to be the same ranking as SEO1 but the pay scale is lower. Go figure for MX11A.

Unregistered 10-04-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83201)
Well the inside story - MXs in MOE regularly compare their overall pay with their teacher counterparts. Like wat is known, there are perks given to teachers, the MXs would like to have too. Over teachers' work career, they will receive a total of about $170,000 in connect plan. That translate to - only MXs earning >$7900(est), could surpass the teachers pay,even if teachers have reached the max.of 7500(est) coz of the average $5700 extra per annum they get from connect plan spreaded out over 30yrs. End day, it is equitable

Perhaps, but that is assuming the officer gets to MX11A in the first place. There's a quota for this, and not everyone can be promoted to MX11A. Probably most will remain at MX11 at the most part of their careers, retiring st MX11A at best.

Unregistered 10-04-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83209)
Yes, but MX11 is supposed to be the same ranking as SEO1 but the pay scale is lower. Go figure for MX11A.

Then in terms of pay scale, SEO1 is equivalent to MX11A or MX10 (before crossing the bar)?

Unregistered 10-04-2016 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83210)
Perhaps, but that is assuming the officer gets to MX11A in the first place. There's a quota for this, and not everyone can be promoted to MX11A. Probably most will remain at MX11 at the most part of their careers, retiring st MX11A at best.

Comparing same timeline of entry between teacher and MX officer,a vast % will easily reach 11A. I cannot imagine working since fresh grad.or even mid-30s not being able to accelerate to grade 11A. If not, it would mean just one promotion in her career life time. Better off not staying on.

Unregistered 11-04-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83242)
Comparing same timeline of entry between teacher and MX officer,a vast % will easily reach 11A. I cannot imagine working since fresh grad.or even mid-30s not being able to accelerate to grade 11A. If not, it would mean just one promotion in her career life time. Better off not staying on.

That's why i was wondering say average performer from uni with 2nd upper can hit what grade ultimately

Unregistered 11-04-2016 05:18 PM

Already answered earlier, 10 straight forward answer, 15% 9. (Sleeping ah, you)?

Unregistered 11-04-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83242)
Comparing same timeline of entry between teacher and MX officer,a vast % will easily reach 11A. I cannot imagine working since fresh grad.or even mid-30s not being able to accelerate to grade 11A. If not, it would mean just one promotion in her career life time. Better off not staying on.

You will be surprised. Not everyone can go beyond. I have known people who are still at MX11 even when their years of service is very long.

Unregistered 11-04-2016 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83280)
Already answered earlier, 10 straight forward answer, 15% 9. (Sleeping ah, you)?

Percentage is unlikely. You are talking about director or DD level for superscale 9. Should be less than 15%, maybe 7-8%

Unregistered 11-04-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83288)
Percentage is unlikely. You are talking about director or DD level for superscale 9. Should be less than 15%, maybe 7-8%

Wah riao. Average performer can hit MX10 , 10K pm. Jin satki menz.

Unregistered 16-04-2016 02:00 PM

27 male

2014- mx13, $3.8k
2015- mx12 $4.2k
2016 - mx11 $4.9k

How is my progression?

Unregistered 02-06-2016 02:08 PM

continue to work hard. Very likely a CEP of MX9 for now. Your organization must have a lot of vacancies to allow for such fast back to back promotions.

You won't get promoted as fast if you were in a ministry that has become saturated, even with the same CEP.


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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 83761)
27 male

2014- mx13, $3.8k
2015- mx12 $4.2k
2016 - mx11 $4.9k

How is my progression?



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