NCS (SingTel subsidiary)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Does anyone know what the P3 and P4 grades correspond to?

P1 - Entry level/App consultant
P2 - Senior App consultant
P3 -???
P4 -???
P5 - Senior Manager
E grades - directors

P1- associate app consultant
P2 - app consultant
P3 - senior app consultant
P4 - lead app consultant

That's how the rating goes

Originally Posted by Unregistered

P2 is not a PM. It is senior consultant. 3 years experience senior consultant (join as fresh grad. Promoted at 1.5 yrs) 5.6k (highest i heard) from my batch.
P3 is Team Lead / Assistant PM level (6.8k) ard 10 years experience
P4 is PM and your range is correct
P5 is senior PM and your range is correct

However note that there is no AWS. and for the last performance review if you get rating of 4/5 (1 being highest, 5 being lowest) you get 0 month bonus. Rating of 3, you get 1 month bonus with no increment. Rating of 2 , you get 2.5 months with increment.
Not sure about rating of 1.

Cheers hope this helps so that you dun get short changed. Generally try to negociate for higher pay as they are more willing to give. After you join, the progression is generally 3% per year (base on performance rating of 3) minus this year since this year singtel profit dip hence the bonuses was very bad

I got like 6.3k offer and P3 with 5.5 years of working experience since degree graduation. Is it consider a lowball?

Anyone has accurate data or knowledge of P5 (senior manager) or E1 (assoc director) salaries? Just wondering if this is a worthwhile company to grow my career in as it typically takes at least 8 to 10 years of experience to reach those grades...

Anyone got into nucleus program?? Hows the pay and benefit like???

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you technical skillset is meh, you can consider joining and volunteer for bigger project and be a slave for 2 years to gain the experience and leave after that. After you leave, you can expect around 20-30% jump in pay if you are not yet promoted. I got around 35% pay jump after i left after 2 years.(abit more since the new job got AWS)

Workload - Project dependent, some project like heaven 10am go in 6pm go home + 2 hours lunch. Some project 9am go in 11pm go home + no time for lunch + dinner.
See Heng Suay.

If your technical skillset is slightly above average, can consider join bigger companies like accenture, workload definitely high but more recognized internationally compared to ncs and higher pay.

To me if you work 9 am to 11pm might as well go accenture chiong sua. Although it is not rare to work until 3am in accenture

work until 3am in accenture? depends on which project you are on and your scope of work. usually people dont work until 3am la please. dont tiagong until anyhow say leh.

May I know why you all say accenture is better than NCS?

From what I know, accenture developer starting pay is 3.8, whereas NCS is 4.1.

Also accenture OT like hell, can NCS be worse?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

May I know why you all say accenture is better than NCS?

From what I know, accenture developer starting pay is 3.8, whereas NCS is 4.1.

Also accenture OT like hell, can NCS be worse?

NCS you need know how to tai chi and siam job .

Originally Posted by Unregistered

CCNA just an entry cert and even a no network background ppl can get it .

A lot FT come with 2-3 CCIE so what you expect for CCNA ?

P1 or P2 is base on your experience and existing pay .

IF you have CCNA , with no network background most likely you will do all junior roles and **** jobs. Have ccie does not mean they are skilled enough. Some have fake ccie,

[Soangeli]

Got anyone who started with development and later was thrown into the maintenance as the dev cycle ended?

Is this a good moment that I should move on and find new opportunities? or should I at least stay for a while? (I do feel like maintenance work not contributing to my skillset developement at this point tho..)

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by Soangeli

Got anyone who started with development and later was thrown into the maintenance as the dev cycle ended?

Is this a good moment that I should move on and find new opportunities? or should I at least stay for a while? (I do feel like maintenance work not contributing to my skillset developement at this point tho..)

Speaking as a production support manager, if you haven't moved into a support role before, it would be good to round out your skillsets in spending some time in a production support/maintenance role for a short period.

Depending on the organization you work in, and the current and future affairs of your organization, it's good to have a support/maintenance skillset as the world of development moves into DevOps. So if you are doing only waterfall development, and that's not going to change in the next two to three years, you may want to consider moving on, but that depends on where you are in life, your age, circumstances etc. If you work in a world of hybrid development styles (WAgile/Watergile?) it's certainly worth evaluating. In my organization, production support/maintenance has the most power and influence. In a lot of other organizations, it's the other way around, but that depends on your Agile/DevOps roadmap and maturity.

I have a few developers in my team who moved into a production support/maintenance role, and for them, they were much more appreciative of the development and support process, particularly when we are on a path to move towards DevOps. Some food for thought.