LOL

rekt

Sounds like someone didn't get into Shopee.

hahahahahahahahaha

lol imagine arguing with each other over a place in a China style tech sweatshop that runs an online shopping mall selling crappy China goods

wtf u talking about?

Simi sai "deep team"??????

LOL you ownself BS then cry about people BSing? Seek help.

deep team is the search and recommendation team in shopee, they're responsible for the search system and product recommendation algorithms whenever you're browsing the shopee site

there's ML engineers and Data Engineers and SWEs in this product team

of course you normal plebs wont know, cos you dont even step foot in shopee and talked to their engineers before, let alone get an offer from them lmao

LOOOL

kena roasted hard , the guy go cry alr ...

Annual salary of 100k puts you in top 18% of all tax paying residents in Singapore.
It means, if we estimate non tax paying residents to be 20%, actual figure should be higher, out of every 12 persons you see only 1 person make more than you.

Or to put it in perspective, shoppe swe is the 8th person if we line every resident by sample size of 100 by descending income.

So your pay info facts or cannon ball, i will let the rest decide.

woah zai wor. talk until like you guys coding for NASA's mars rover or machine learning for cancer research

actually is just pushing advertisements and featured products for crappy chinese OEM on a terribly dated app interface

lame la I can also go on LinkedIn and just anyhow say a team's name, wtf u talking about lol how does knowing a team name and what they do prove anything?

Stop posting.

It's not public information that internally its called "deep team", I'd love to see you try find information about it. I also know their tech lead who is Zhao Linlin because he was my final round interviewer.

If it's so easy to find information why aren't more people posting about it. Please if its so easy tell me about more about the SWE teams in Shopee and who are their respective tech leads. I can name almost all of them because I've also interned there before.

Until then, I'll just take everyone's post here as bs. Enough said

You are not comparing apples to apples. Many of these swe are the better end of the cs cohort, wage statistics also do not segment for education level and industry. You cannot compare a strong uni grad against a non degree holder

A 100k salary is alright but nowhere near amazing, I’m at 180k and I’m the most junior and peasant in my team. If you look again at your mom stats you will realize that number of people making gross of >12k is significantly higher than 8-10k

I don't think it's wise to leak out details of employee names of the company you're working at. It's just basic courtesy imo.

Nonetheless, thank you for the information. I'm not surprised to see the high pay, Shopee has always been a very profitable company. I've seen all their ads... first thought that came to my mind was: damn, they must have a boatload of money to run those ads over and over again everywhere.

Minimum 6k a month is insane, what do you think of the person saying 7.5k? have you heard of anyone getting that high as a fresh grad? I'm curious because Google data center SWE is about 6.5k+ so I'm wondering are FAANGs no longer competing against local large techs...

Edit: I am hoping you are the same person posting the 100k salary... if not then my apologies... it gets hard to recognize who's who with all the unregistered names :(

Not sure why people find it so hard to believe 100k salaries for fresh grads in shopee SWE. Yea granted not all the shopee fresh grads get that, but im sure a good number.

BTW not only do SWE earn good salaries, other roles can pay close to 100k or exceed it for fresh grads
- Investment bankers (obviously)
- Strat consultants (MBB, tier 2)
- tech sales (amazon, salesforce ...)
- data scientists
- quant traders
- doctors (? not so sure)
- lawyers (? not so sure)

I'm sure there are others also. For sure these are competitive but they do exists. Open your eyes people.

true. the difference with the above roles is until the last decade or so, CS was seen as a dumping ground in popular perception, especially in the years after the dot com bubble burst. so the stereotypes of the masses still needs time to catch up

Layman translator: OP cannot ever see himself earning 100k so any fresh grad that is earning 100k is clearly spouting BS.

you dumbass, OP means original poster. Not the guy you're replying to.

Wtf so dumb. You're trying too hard it's cringe af. Seek help.

Ego bruising reality supported by statistics, triggering the superiority complex that cannot take humility as a life creed resorting to plucking numbers from the air to feed the surrealism.

Losers.

What a way to type a bunch of words and not say anything concrete. Must be similar to your work value and why your pay sucks

I think you need a certain level of intelligence to be able to read the poster's message.

You are right, it needs to be as low as his

Who uses the word cringe these days?

how the fk we know u kum gong is it? Ask us for fk

Joined shopee as swe last year. can confirm my annual comp is > 100K

What's your package? Mind sharing?

You mean as fresh graduate or how many YoE?

wow these people must be zai af

I from NTU comp science, first class honors, GPA only 0.1 shy from perfection. win best software freelance project in my senior year, got full scholarship also covering all tuition ( not including hall ).

intern at shopee for 2 semesters worth, my return offer only 70k. u guys all getting >100k+? wa so zai... sad i guess im noob even tho i got bytedance offer 85k, dbs seed 60k, garena 80k, i guess u guys are god tier programmers.

so pro, good job guys.

did u forget to count in your RSU and bonus. we're talking about total comp here

You got the offer in which year?

ya rsu is 10k a year for me leh

60k base + 10k rsu every year vest for 4 years = 70k

bonus i not sure, they told me base % which was 8... and that 8% is off base pay only, not TC. even if i get amazing performance review and get 20%+ bonus off my base pay, it's still less than 80k annual.

anyway its ok... to be honest i also kinda expected it because my manager didnt even give me interview, he just ask if i want or not 2 week before intern end then give me offer letter and 3 days to think lol where got like this one? no room to negotiate or anything at all...

early this year jan. i finish intern last year nov - dec, so the return offer was for jan.

i was backend engineer intern... maybe pick wrong role lol but at the time this was the only role open so no choice, i just intern here.

Why did you pick shopee out of all those?

I see. So u working where now? ByteDance?

Lol how gullible are you?

You not getting an interview and a return offer means you did well enough that they want you back... Seriously you're stupid if you believe the 100k BS offers here. Just ask any of your colleagues that you've worked with during your internship.

I interned as UI Developer intern for 2 sems in 2020 and in our group chat with recruiting staff and in the 4 FAQs we had for our batch, they have never ever heard of anyone getting 100k as a fresh grad lol.

Worse of all is the retard giving out the manager name and the DEEP team's name. So what? LOL I can go on LinkedIn and just give out senior managers of Google and Facebook. Does that prove that I work for Google / Facebook and know about their pay packages?

What a stupid take. My god...

It's really legit though

I'm from NUS CS 2021. I have friends from NUS CS 2021 (who all got at least a 2nd upper), they were being offered mid 6k+ with 2 months bonus and stocks which sums to 100k a year at least

Are you join Shopee in 2021 as SWE? If so you are severely underpaid, I'd suggest you raise this your HR because the standard pay is really 100k

I've heard the top student from CS 2021 cohort (Lee Kuan Yew Medal) was being offered close to 10k base and few hundred units of RSU just to compete with the other offers he had gotten

Only fresh grads earning $100k per annum are investment bankers. Rest are cool story.

who to believe

The guys that keeps calling people stupid and retard

Or the guy that types in proper grammar and punctuation

Lol

In this market, top student in CS for 2021 getting 10k+ base is just sad, considering that a fresh IB analyst gets couple thousand grand more than that and doesn't even need to be the valedictorian of business school

yeah but thats just the base. most tech companies offer stock, and a significant amount of their package comprises that

for the case above total package can likely reach 220k+, assuming 250 units of NYSE: SE vested a year - which I think can be a quite realistic sum Shopee is willing to offer

that's why if you're working in tech (especially silicon valley guys) most guys will refer to their package as "Total Comp" or "TC"

To be fair, most of the salary for top earners in CS comes from the stock options. Assuming the fresh grad getting 500 units this year. 500/4 restricted units of Sea stock is worth an extra 59k+ sgd bonus for the next 4 years. And this 10k+ offer is only for 1 company. There are also companies that may have competing offers for work-life balance like 4 days work week. Of course average students like myself feels so sad that my overall package is lesser than a fresh grad after working 4 years.

Yeah but also bear in mind that in the higher echelons of finance jobs, 6-12 months of bonus are not uncommon.

I'm just surprised that the valedictorian or the "top CS student from 2021 cohort" (LKY Gold Medallist so i assume this means NTU) if what the OP above says is true, is only getting such an offer from Shopee (total comp around 100k+) to match his other offers. Shouldn't his other offers be FAANG-level offers which are SV level offers?