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Old 11-09-2021, 05:11 PM
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Does anyone know how the EB banks do in Singapore? Am a student at a top UK/US target, and generally EBs pay 20-40% more than BBs in NYC/London. But I heard stories from my local university friends that EBs are quite weak here due to limited M&A dealflow, hence they pay significantly below BBs. Can anyone confirm what typical yearly EB all-in salaries are like here, and preferably by bank? Thanks!

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For BBs & some other MMs, IB & S&T pre 2021 (there was recently a raise) both pay fresh grads a base salary of 9.5-10k/mth, with bonus ranging quite widely. This much I can personally confirm from my own experience, though there will be a raise to somewhere around 11-12k/mth for 2022 fresh grads & summer interns.

Heard stories of IBD bonuses hitting up to 100-120% of base for top buckets at stronger banks, but the norm is likely slightly below, maybe 80%? S&T bonuses tend to be a bit lower on average, given that they work 60-70% of IBD hours, have heard stories of 40-60% base being the norm. But these bonus stories are just based on hearsay, I haven't received my first bonus yet. Still, yearly all-in compensation (pre-raise) should have been safely about 200k++ for IBD, and 160k++ in S&T.

In 5 years, associates/AVPs should expect to more or less have doubled their total comp, but variance will be a bit high. For example, a good trader could possibly have already been made VP and be managing 10++m of PnL yearly, while many others could be getting mediocre bonuses due to poor performance, meaning they are likely to leave/be culled soon. Can't give meaningful figures here, as simple average figures are vulnerable to survivorship bias.

Don't know how much AM pays in Singapore
Thanks for the information. What about local bank IB comp?



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Thanks for the information. What about local bank IB comp?
Worse than PwC Corporate Finance

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Thanks for the information. What about local bank IB comp?
Do local banks even have an IBD??? Honest question here
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Do local banks even have an IBD??? Honest question here
Yes, but they're stronger in ECM.
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Worse than PwC Corporate Finance
Thanks. Any rough estimate for analyst/associate levelsp
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Thanks. Any rough estimate for analyst/associate levelsp
Analyst 60k
Associate 90k
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sorry. may i know what is really high finance ?

Are these hedge fund manager ? your KPI is based on the ROI of the fund under management which resulted in the high earning/bonus payout ?

Apart from that, as BO or MO, i suppose is about support, providing analysis, risk management, compliance related stuff. Why would company pay a high annual package for them ?

i might be wrong, wish to understand more about "high finance".
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sorry. may i know what is really high finance ?

Are these hedge fund manager ? your KPI is based on the ROI of the fund under management which resulted in the high earning/bonus payout ?

Apart from that, as BO or MO, i suppose is about support, providing analysis, risk management, compliance related stuff. Why would company pay a high annual package for them ?

i might be wrong, wish to understand more about "high finance".
You are right. Most of the BO and MO guys don't get paid anywhere near what was quoted. In fact many BO or MO esp in less prestigious firms may not even touch $10k p.m. even after 10 years of experience. Unless one has skill which are very rare or in demand, like quants. Even if you are paid a big sum of money, you will be constantly be in fear of losing your job since competition is great from foreigners esp folks from India who are younger, faster, smarter and most importantly cheaper.
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You are right. Most of the BO and MO guys don't get paid anywhere near what was quoted. In fact many BO or MO esp in less prestigious firms may not even touch $10k p.m. even after 10 years of experience. Unless one has skill which are very rare or in demand, like quants. Even if you are paid a big sum of money, you will be constantly be in fear of losing your job since competition is great from foreigners esp folks from India who are younger, faster, smarter and most importantly cheaper.
If you really think the average ceca is smarter than you, then you deserve to lose your job to them
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