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Old 18-06-2020, 07:08 PM
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why civil servant belive they deserve bonus le? whyen the rest of the world inclufing bank and private sector all wage freeze and lay off etc..

if civil servant still get bonus in this climate... means opposition will say gahmen corrupt.
Nobody is saying they deserve the bonus. Let's say a farmer has a hen. The hen has been laying good amount of eggs. The farmer is happy. When the hen is sick, the eggs are lesser. The farmer is sad. Does the farmer deserve the eggs? That is a moot question. But the farmer definitely will be sad because the output is lesser. But of course still relieved that the hen is alive.

Similarly, the question of whether Civil servants 'deserve' the bonus or not is moot. It is pointless to argue whether do they absolutely deserve the bonus, or absolutely do not deserve the bonus. It is a matter of emotions, and people are free to express them. One will naturally feel sad when good things do not happen. It does not mean that one has no logic or feels that they 'deserve' the bonus. I can feel sad and still agree with the logic that not getting the bonus is to be expected.

So to sum up, this is not a matter of logic and reasoning.



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Any idea how’s the bonus like for local banks, foreign banks and MNCs?

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This is quite tragic. Think many civil and public servants have been working OT and weekends since march or april due to COVID. Some have not taken a single day off work since a few mths back. How will this affect morale?
why work non stop... smart abit la.

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Is always a friday evening release la dont be cock and camp today
Says a cock. Lol
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I think politically it is untenable to give civil servants bonus.
Will lose good will of the many citizens
Unpopular opinion here, but as an ordinary citizen i personally think now is a good time to mete out bonuses to our public servants, because they are working the hardest. Even if they are not on the front lines like healthcare workers, i know a lot of civil servants who are serving the covid19 cause by doing extra social distance ambassadorial work for instance. While it may not apply across ALL civil servants, it's to be expected they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes for us in line with all the covid19-related changes like policy reformulation, implementation of new legislation etc.

Keep up the good work and morale, civil servants.
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Nobody is saying they deserve the bonus. Let's say a farmer has a hen. The hen has been laying good amount of eggs. The farmer is happy. When the hen is sick, the eggs are lesser. The farmer is sad. Does the farmer deserve the eggs? That is a moot question. But the farmer definitely will be sad because the output is lesser. But of course still relieved that the hen is alive.

Similarly, the question of whether Civil servants 'deserve' the bonus or not is moot. It is pointless to argue whether do they absolutely deserve the bonus, or absolutely do not deserve the bonus. It is a matter of emotions, and people are free to express them. One will naturally feel sad when good things do not happen. It does not mean that one has no logic or feels that they 'deserve' the bonus. I can feel sad and still agree with the logic that not getting the bonus is to be expected.

So to sum up, this is not a matter of logic and reasoning.
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analogy doesn't make sense
concludes with ''it is not a matter of logic and reasoning''

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Unpopular opinion here, but as an ordinary citizen i personally think now is a good time to mete out bonuses to our public servants, because they are working the hardest. Even if they are not on the front lines like healthcare workers, i know a lot of civil servants who are serving the covid19 cause by doing extra social distance ambassadorial work for instance. While it may not apply across ALL civil servants, it's to be expected they are doing a lot of work behind the scenes for us in line with all the covid19-related changes like policy reformulation, implementation of new legislation etc.

Keep up the good work and morale, civil servants.
Thank you for understanding. Even those who aren't sent out are working double hard covering for those who are. The public service has remained largely operational because of the work of those who have worked hard (from home or otherwise) throughout this entire period. While I saw many private sector friends baking and making dalgona coffee while "working from home", most of us were so swamped (though we worked from home too) we could hardly breathe. I just finished work at 11pm today, which has been very common lately. Your support means a lot, at least to me!
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Thank you for understanding. Even those who aren't sent out are working double hard covering for those who are. The public service has remained largely operational because of the work of those who have worked hard (from home or otherwise) throughout this entire period. While I saw many private sector friends baking and making dalgona coffee while "working from home", most of us were so swamped (though we worked from home too) we could hardly breathe. I just finished work at 11pm today, which has been very common lately. Your support means a lot, at least to me!
Im in civil service too, but from my observations we are swamped not because we are working doubly hard, but because there are so many red tapes that are even harder to work through by not being in the office. So it's busier due to self-imposed obstacles.
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Im in civil service too, but from my observations we are swamped not because we are working doubly hard, but because there are so many red tapes that are even harder to work through by not being in the office. So it's busier due to self-imposed obstacles.
Indeed, discounting the red tapes and bureaucratic processes, it's doubtful how much "actual work" is done.
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Indeed, discounting the red tapes and bureaucratic processes, it's doubtful how much "actual work" is done.
so much hate, really representative of private sector people
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