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Salary.sg 23-07-2007 01:04 PM

High earners have engineering degrees
 
Yes, it's not finance degrees. Most highly-paid senior executives actually did engineering for their first degrees, so said Business Times.

Among the best-paid executives in Straits Times Index companies, whose income ranges from $250k to $9m per year, 31% graduated with engineering degrees. The next largest group - at 22% - hold science degrees.

Notable engineers include:

- Keppel Corp executive chairman Lim Chee Onn. He holds a doctorate in engineering and made more than $7 million last year. (His first degree is a science degree.)
- Venture Corp chairman and CEO Wong Ngit Liong. He achieved first class honours in electrical engineering in University of Malaya. His income was more than $4 million for last year.
- Venture Corp executive directors Soo Eng Hiong and Tan Choon Huat, with engineering degrees from UK.
- SembCorp Marine group president and CEO Tan Kwi Kin.
- ST Engineering CEO Tan Pheng Hock.
- CapitaLand president and CEO Liew Mun Leong.
- Fraser & Neave chairman Michael Fam.
- Singapore Airlines CEO Chew Choon Seng.
- Genting International executive chairman Lim Kok Thay, with a degree in civil engineering from University of London.
- Keppel Land managing director Kevin Wong, with a civil engineering first class honours from the Imperial College.
- Singapore Press Holdings CEO Alan Chan.

I suppose investment bankers, lawyers and doctors don't feature prominently in the list simply due to the nature of their professions and career paths.

For lawyers and doctors, they run private practices or set up partnerships. Bankers rise up to be well paid SVPs or set up boutique firms with partners. They still make millions. No need to be top brass in listed companies.

Moreover, we still need to consider the "success rate" of a typical engineering graduate, his median pay packet, and so on.

We have already seen that top engineers make far less than their counterparts in other professions.

For every successful engineer like Lim Chee Onn (who is now in business management rather than engineering), how many others continue to slog for a less-than-stellar pay? And compare this ratio with graduates of other disciplines.

Only then can we get a clearer picture.

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chem. eng. undergrad--- 20-01-2008 01:11 PM

758
 
well said. normal engineers career path is limited to principal engineer with the very good ones rising to department managers.
take note most company only got 1 or 2 engineering department managers.

of course if your performance is not that good you might see yourself stuck at senior engineer(approx $5000-$8000 for MNCs)

another way is go to technical consulting field.set up own firm be engineering consultant. This is more for chemical/civil engineering.Such consultants require immense experience = u should be having some white hair already? =)


conclusion being engineers (in MNCs) can provide a reasonable comfortable lifestyle, however do not expect salary of more than $10000/mth.(u want go investment banking.)
if u aim to be ceo then its a different story.

bjhchong 20-06-2009 10:33 AM

Correct me if i am wrong:

From the list i see, can i conclude that these engineers eventually moved out of engineering into administration & business management?

Should us engineers be picking up business admin/management skillsets if we were to aspire to be like them?

davidtan 20-06-2009 11:24 AM

You are right. To get ahead, you have to do business, or invest wisely.

On wise investments, it's not hard to do better than average given that the general population usually get trapped by things like unit trusts, structured products, and even timeshare schemes and MLM. But to do much better than average, you need good acumen and of course some luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjhchong (Post 3932)
Correct me if i am wrong:

From the list i see, can i conclude that these engineers eventually moved out of engineering into administration & business management?

Should us engineers be picking up business admin/management skillsets if we were to aspire to be like them?


bjhchong 20-06-2009 08:28 PM

David: What about real estate & rental? I believe it's sounder isn't it? Any tips on how to "fast track" on that?

btw, I believe you are the guru on investments in this forum ;)

davidtan 21-06-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjhchong (Post 3943)
David: What about real estate & rental? I believe it's sounder isn't it? Any tips on how to "fast track" on that?

btw, I believe you are the guru on investments in this forum ;)

I prefer to trade shares. It's easier and quite exciting when markets are volatile like past 2 months and mid last year. I do have some investment properties, but they are quite boring as I only buy during property lulls, rent out, and sell when property becomes hot. Boring compared to stock trading.

bjhchong 21-06-2009 06:54 PM

Grand Master Tan,

You Good lah, you... I'll burn backside trading shares...

quek 22-06-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjhchong (Post 3950)
Grand Master Tan,

You Good lah, you... I'll burn backside trading shares...

Trading shares is not for the faint hearted. I believe many of us got burnt before. But I now believe in "trading" in a bigger cycle - buy at (or near) market lows and sell when you feel there's heat all around. Check out the "Market Cycle Investing" article:
Market Cycle Investing | Salary.sg - Your Salary in Singapore

davidtan 23-06-2009 06:08 PM

He said it. Trading shares for the short term has its risks. For me, it's just a hobby to keep myself busy. I'm lucky to be profitable so far.

quek 24-06-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidtan (Post 3985)
He said it. Trading shares for the short term has its risks. For me, it's just a hobby to keep myself busy. I'm lucky to be profitable so far.

Do you really have to be lucky in order to be profitable? I read something along that line in the book "Random Walk Down Wall Street", which suggests that people should buy and hold for medium term instead of buying and selling too frequently.


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